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<blockquote data-quote="MThibault" data-source="post: 455069" data-attributes="member: 7971"><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Well, go tell that to a Huron with a hand axe and knife. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>But I don't think that it is seriously in dispute that the D&D ranger is an internal creation. If you don't like it, use one of the alternatives. Some of us do like it. WotC can't please everyone. I guess I'm just glad it was me that they pleased and not you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Balgus,</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>That's more of a problem if you don't allow feat chains to synergize. First of all, not all feats are created equal and the more powerful ones require heavy prerequisites so if you only have a few feats available you'll probably never see more than one feat chain. You will never get to see the synergy between Improved Two Weapon Fighting and Whirlwind Attack, for example. Add in Power Attack (because all but one of your attacks will be at your highest BAB -2 so you've got a bit of wiggle room in the attack department) and Great Cleave and the body count starts to rise quickly. Or if you are running low on HP, use the excess attack bonus to boost up your AC with Expertise. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>If you don't use your feats, they are wasted. Whirlwind Attack allows you to get +5 to your second attack, and +10 to your third attack. If you roll some of this bonus over into Expertise or Power Attack you will have fewer wasted feats.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>A halfling rogue will have to devote every last one of her feats to just get WWA.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Many people houserule away the combinations of WWA/Great Cleave and Improved TWF/WWA. I think that leads to a more "linear" progression of power for the fighter.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MThibault, post: 455069, member: 7971"] [B] Well, go tell that to a Huron with a hand axe and knife. ;) But I don't think that it is seriously in dispute that the D&D ranger is an internal creation. If you don't like it, use one of the alternatives. Some of us do like it. WotC can't please everyone. I guess I'm just glad it was me that they pleased and not you. ;) Balgus, That's more of a problem if you don't allow feat chains to synergize. First of all, not all feats are created equal and the more powerful ones require heavy prerequisites so if you only have a few feats available you'll probably never see more than one feat chain. You will never get to see the synergy between Improved Two Weapon Fighting and Whirlwind Attack, for example. Add in Power Attack (because all but one of your attacks will be at your highest BAB -2 so you've got a bit of wiggle room in the attack department) and Great Cleave and the body count starts to rise quickly. Or if you are running low on HP, use the excess attack bonus to boost up your AC with Expertise. If you don't use your feats, they are wasted. Whirlwind Attack allows you to get +5 to your second attack, and +10 to your third attack. If you roll some of this bonus over into Expertise or Power Attack you will have fewer wasted feats. A halfling rogue will have to devote every last one of her feats to just get WWA. Many people houserule away the combinations of WWA/Great Cleave and Improved TWF/WWA. I think that leads to a more "linear" progression of power for the fighter.[/b] [/QUOTE]
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