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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Beal" data-source="post: 8683132" data-attributes="member: 7036805">I get it... but on a rogue with all those points, I will almost certainly have ranks in it. Maybe ranger too. It's just how I envision the class. Scaling a castle wall could benefit from compitent skills, or a tightrope, scenario.DC 10 is reflective of a skill that half of all people could perform without difficulty, or something that all people can do half the time. 50/50 with no skill or understanding. Does rope use need 24 ranks? Definitely not... knowledge royalty/nobility probably doesnt either. My point was only that the skillsets of some classes offset the proficiencies and spells of others. The rope was only an example.</blockquote>