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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8303852" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Following is the inarguable product of logic, maths, and watching too much Star Trek in my life.Note that in a combined list of shows and movies, movies lose out. Trek is always better when given room to breathe.<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">TOS. No question. Without TOS, there is no Trek. Iconic characters, iconic aliens, iconic plots. It's all there from the beginning.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DS9. This is a tough one to put in front of the next; started rough as regular Trek, but arguably the best example of being both subversive and true to "Trek," with the greatest character development.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">TNG. I loved it when it aired (must watch!), but ... weirdly, it seems more dated than TOS. Still- Picard. Data. Wesley. Ha!</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The Wrath of Khan. First movie entry; best movie. Has there ever been an argument on this?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">ST: Beyond. Surprised? The Abrams cast is amazing, and this is the most "Star Trek" of the three nu-Trek movies. Yes, it has some problems (like all Trek movies except Wrath) but it's quite good.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Undiscovered Country. Can old dogs learn tricks? A really good movie that plays into the weaknesses of the aging cast.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Enterprise. So much wasted potential. Such a terrible finale. But some good episodes in there.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The Voyage Home. Whales!</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">First Contact. The only good TNG movie. Arguably, the only watchable one.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Star Trek (Abrams Reboot). Derivative? Sure! Breaks rules? Yep. Lens flares? You betcha! But great cast, and good time. That's ... something for a Trek movie.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Voyager. It was a Star Trek series. Year of Hell was good.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The Motion Picture. The 70s, man. More 2001 than Trek, it's an experience.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The Animated Series. Fun! But the animation ... it's tough today. After this entry, it gets pretty dire.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The Search for Spock. Not as bad as its reputation. Best of the "odds" of the TOS movies.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Going to the DMV.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">ST: Into Darkness. What if we did Khan, but it sucked?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Getting a colonoscopy.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Generations. What if we wasted the cast of TNG, and Kirk? And it sucked?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Getting a root canal.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The Final Frontier. Is it possible to make a movie worse than the worst dreck of the TOS?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Getting into a car accident.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Insurrection. Yes, the TNG folks are happy to make worse movies than the Final Frontier.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Learning that the whole world is the Truman Show, but you're not Truman, you are an extra. Oh, and then you're hit by a bus, but you don't die, and you have years of excruciating rehab.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Nemesis.</li> </ol>No grade yet: Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks</blockquote>

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