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<blockquote data-quote="Corsair" data-source="post: 1810501" data-attributes="member: 23477">Pendragon:&nbsp; The player in question is playing a rogue in another game I play with him, where he, while greedy and perhaps less than ethical in his business practices, doesn't actually STEAL anything.&nbsp; So when he came up with a chaotic neutral rogue, I wasn't really expecting this.&nbsp; His previous characters tend to follow common themes, often questioning authority (chaotic) and looking out for themselves (neutral), but he's never played anything that I could ever consider even close to evil.When the guy made his character, he knew there would be a paladin in the party.&nbsp; I also made it clear that in my game, being evil was completely possible without being a baby-killing devil worshiper.&nbsp; I intentionally played this up as an example of why a paladin couldn't just go around decapitating people who detected as evil.&nbsp; I even gave the example of unscrupulous business people or inn keepers who won't stab you in your sleep, but certainly won't hesitate to overcharge you if they can.Now that being said, I also have shown examples where good and neutral characters can do bad things without being evil.&nbsp; So far, at least one neutral NPC has commited a murder, though because it was a one time deal for the NPC, she didn't slip yet.&nbsp; Another example are the raiders who boarded the train.&nbsp; They are LN members of a religious order who were attempting to recover an evil artifact on board the train for the purposes of destroying it.&nbsp; They had no qualms about cutting down anyone who got in their way, but their leader did make sure to take the time to stabilize most of the people they knocked out.&nbsp; They weren't there to kill people, just to get the artifact.Summation:&nbsp; I don't plan on springing anything on the player immediately.&nbsp; Perhaps he just had a one time weakness and won't keep it up.&nbsp; However if he does keep stealing simply out of greed, I can't ignore that.&nbsp; I'll check back with you folk in a couple months and tell you how its going.&nbsp; (we only play every other week)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Corsair, post: 1810501, member: 23477"] Pendragon: The player in question is playing a rogue in another game I play with him, where he, while greedy and perhaps less than ethical in his business practices, doesn't actually STEAL anything. So when he came up with a chaotic neutral rogue, I wasn't really expecting this. His previous characters tend to follow common themes, often questioning authority (chaotic) and looking out for themselves (neutral), but he's never played anything that I could ever consider even close to evil. When the guy made his character, he knew there would be a paladin in the party. I also made it clear that in my game, being evil was completely possible without being a baby-killing devil worshiper. I intentionally played this up as an example of why a paladin couldn't just go around decapitating people who detected as evil. I even gave the example of unscrupulous business people or inn keepers who won't stab you in your sleep, but certainly won't hesitate to overcharge you if they can. Now that being said, I also have shown examples where good and neutral characters can do bad things without being evil. So far, at least one neutral NPC has commited a murder, though because it was a one time deal for the NPC, she didn't slip yet. Another example are the raiders who boarded the train. They are LN members of a religious order who were attempting to recover an evil artifact on board the train for the purposes of destroying it. They had no qualms about cutting down anyone who got in their way, but their leader did make sure to take the time to stabilize most of the people they knocked out. They weren't there to kill people, just to get the artifact. Summation: I don't plan on springing anything on the player immediately. Perhaps he just had a one time weakness and won't keep it up. However if he does keep stealing simply out of greed, I can't ignore that. I'll check back with you folk in a couple months and tell you how its going. (we only play every other week) [/QUOTE]

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