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Message: <blockquote data-quote="spectre72" data-source="post: 1811351" data-attributes="member: 18885">I really don't understand where "Stealing" makes the rogue evil.Over this last weekend my CN druid took a few wands and scrolls off of dead enemies that we had killed during an assault on an orc stronghold and I didn't tell the rest of the party.Does that make my character evil also?Is my character evil because I did a CDG on one of the Orcs instead of healing them?from the SRD...'Chaotic Neutral, “Free Spirit”: A chaotic neutral character follows his whims.'Also from the SRD...'"Evil" implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others.'I think anyone who reads that the thief or my druid had hurt anyone by taking things from dead people (murdered or not) is really stretching things IMO.And as for the party, no one was dying so how did he hurt them?Is my character evil because I pocketed some items that may have helped someone else in the party (so I hurt them).If I have a healing potion and do not use it to heal a stabilized companion am I evil?And as for the person who suggested hanging the "Thief" out to dry to teach him a lesson I am glad that I am not playing in the same game as you.If teh thief did not murder anyone then as a GM I would have to have one h$## of a story reason for doing something like that to a player, and teaching them a lesson is not on the list for me.Apparently my view of "Evil" is different than a bunch of other people on this list.  The biggest distinction in my mind would be if the hurting or oppression is first party or a result of circumstances.For example, the thief stole from one of the dead bodies on the train and the child of that person died of starvation (consequences of action unknown to the rogue).  I would not consider this evil.If the person did the same thing knowing that the man's children would die then that would be an evil act.And I would add that I personally as a GM will not act as a characters conscious and say "you realize that the man probably has children and this will hurt them."  On the other hand if the children showed up and asked about their father, and the money that he had which would pay for the mortgage, seed, or medicine for little Timmy that is different.IMHO Stealing, theft, bribery, ...etc. are not evil.  Selfish definitely, but not evil.</blockquote>

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