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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 1813579" data-attributes="member: 1325">Of course Christianity has a bearing on the subject. Our entire legal systems in the western hemisphere and the near Middle East are based upon those tablets that Moses was given. It is not &quot;only&quot; a transgression. It is a transgression. They are the seven &quot;deadly&quot; sins. Theft is a transgression. Giving in to greed is a mortal sin, and you should fear for your soul! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Me? I have no religion. I'm what is known as an atheist. But I admit to having a strong moral upbringing. I believe there are wrongs that are wrong not because society says so, but because they are against principles that I hold fundamental. If you accept the fact, for instance, that, as per the American constitution, that all men are equal then there are certain logical conclusions that one must make from this, regardless. One of these conclusions led to the slaves being freed. It took a while, but that is because there were powerful forces at work, and people are only human, and fallible. Even the best of them. IIRC, at least one of the founding fathers had a slave. Do you think Gygax was unaffected by his upbringing? That subsequent writers of the rules threw the shackles of their own private moralities away? Of course not. In the game, PCs have an alignment. This alignment is not set in stone. The actions of the PC define the alignment of the character.&nbsp; This alignment will cause him or her to suffer/benefit from various in-game effects. The definition of alignment is not relative in the game. Per the RAW, a PC cannot claim, &quot;I'm good because my parents taught me that killing slaves, and eating their intestines is a good act, in service of the beneficial, blissful and harmonious deity Demogorgon.&quot; Per the game, the character may well believe that his actions are good, that he is doing good in the service of a good deity, yet, what he believes is of no consequence when within a holy word spell.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="green slime, post: 1813579, member: 1325"] Of course Christianity has a bearing on the subject. Our entire legal systems in the western hemisphere and the near Middle East are based upon those tablets that Moses was given. It is not "only" a transgression. It is a transgression. They are the seven "deadly" sins. Theft is a transgression. Giving in to greed is a mortal sin, and you should fear for your soul! ;) Me? I have no religion. I'm what is known as an atheist. But I admit to having a strong moral upbringing. I believe there are wrongs that are wrong not because society says so, but because they are against principles that I hold fundamental. If you accept the fact, for instance, that, as per the American constitution, that all men are equal then there are certain logical conclusions that one must make from this, regardless. One of these conclusions led to the slaves being freed. It took a while, but that is because there were powerful forces at work, and people are only human, and fallible. Even the best of them. IIRC, at least one of the founding fathers had a slave. Do you think Gygax was unaffected by his upbringing? That subsequent writers of the rules threw the shackles of their own private moralities away? Of course not. In the game, PCs have an alignment. This alignment is not set in stone. The actions of the PC define the alignment of the character. This alignment will cause him or her to suffer/benefit from various in-game effects. The definition of alignment is [b]not[/b] relative in the game. Per the RAW, a PC cannot claim, "I'm good because my parents taught me that killing slaves, and eating their intestines is a good act, in service of the beneficial, blissful and harmonious deity Demogorgon." Per the game, the character may well [b]believe[/b] that his actions are good, that he is doing good in the service of a good deity, yet, what he believes is of no consequence when within a [i]holy word[/i] spell. [/QUOTE]

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