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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ARandomGod" data-source="post: 1813811" data-attributes="member: 17296">Obviously. That's what we're doing here. ^_^I don't mind, as I differ from you. That is, in my opinion, one of the main points of forums such as this!OK. And I don't view it as excessive for me to tax those people of thier luggage. Once again, it's merely a matter of justification and viewpoint. You can, of course, differ. But if you differ by overriding my choice of alignment and forcing a non-good one, then you can't say that you're doing anything other than making an overriding decicion, ignoring my viewpoint. (Note: This is a pretty good way to "define" good and evil. This is a supernatural world. All you have to do is have good and evil lawfully defined by a god or grouping thereof. Some actions would be evil by definition. However, taking something without permission is then going to be either good or evil, whoever does it, government or not).OK. So I choose to say that this country is mine, and it's being raided by a robber baron (the King), and I'm defending it and taking "taxes" and "liberating" stolen monies. I'm not saying this character is stable, I'm saying that it could fit. Rilly? Well, neither do they. For that matter, there are plots of land in the middle east that people *could* walk away from. That's not really a valid point in this debate.I don't think that you can... People have tried this sort of thing, they get punished and/or killed. OK...True, but aren't you "forced" to?Ah HA! And they take any monies they can when they do this. They then sell off your property. It's called "siezing your assets".  They call it this because they're the government, and the governement has done such a good of justification of it's theft that it's convinced even YOU (and many people) that this "protection money" is not theft. Seriously, go back and look at the evolution of governments. Or try and do this "not paying taxes" thing, or look at what happens if a group attempts to succeed from the nation. You are not allowed to not live there anymore. You must comply, or you will be forced to, and the force will happen in these ways set out by law.In conclusion I'll point out that you are correct... the people who write the laws also write the definitions, and "lawfully" taking something is not theft:Of course, you'll also note that this very fact goes well to illustrate that theft and stealing is a law/chaos axis event... and therefore my point that a lawful action that is in every way theft with the exception of it being lawful would fall on the same point on the good/evil axis as that same action taken unlawfully. theft*n : the act of taking something from someone unlawfully**(Law) The act of stealing; specifically, the felonious taking and removing of personal property, with an intent to deprive the rightful owner of the same; larceny.Note: To constitute theft there must be a taking without the owner's consent, and it must be unlawful or felonious; every part of the property stolen must be removed, however slightly, from its former position; and it must be, at least momentarily, in the complete possession of the thief.***a criminal taking of the property or services of another without consent</blockquote>

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