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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Iron_Chef" data-source="post: 1000802" data-attributes="member: 4530">Flakey concepts should be left to third party publishers and fan sites like Malls & Morons, where my gaming dollar is not forced to subsidize such non-commercial concepts with every issue.Another reason the mini-games fail to work for me is that there is no support. Make them OGC, and let them grow or die on their own with third party and fan support. Another stumbling block to use them is that there are no adventures to make them easier to run! My group has no time for one-shots. If the games were of interest to us and were supported, we might try some as a campaign. I stress *might*, because most of the ones I've seen fail to make me want to have anything to do with them. I've never felt the urge to roleplay Josie & the Pussycats, Doc Savage, World War 2, Giant Robots, Cannonball Run, Buffy, TMNT, etc.Now, for the remainder of this post, I'll try to inject some ideas I just had with as little of my trademark "hyperbole" as possible... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Here's an idea to keep Poly alive AND make the D&D crowd happier... Make Poly for variant fantasy d20 games, and make the material OGC. Introduce new rules, feats, spells, etc. Create mini-games that could be used in a D&D campaign. Some ideas that have not been covered yet by WoTC are low magic worlds or no magic worlds (maybe even a real medieval historical setting). Another idea instead of the mini-games is adventure locations! Put in an entire fully statted D&D city with buildings and NPCs described that suggest adventure ideas to DMs but do not actually contain any specific adventure. Or put in an entire neighborhood, village or city block in microscopic detail. Or even just a tavern, inn, guild or temple. Or a rogue's gallery with dozens of fully statted and illustrated NPCs (preferably villains). In short, make Poly useful to D&D players while encouraging readers to expand their ideas of what makes a D&D game. Put in some thoughtful, RP-intensive stuff to balance out the brain-dead hack-n-slash "back to the dungeon" nonsense WoTC's bee pushing on us since 3.0. Show us what D&D can do outside the dungeoncrawl, like AEG's brilliant "Dynasties & Demagogues" recently did for political adventures. If I could actually use Poly material in my D&D games, I would be a lot happier about its inclusion in Dungeon.I'm thinking Dungeon should be revamped into the "DM's Magazine"... not just for adventures, but for addressing variant D&D rules, settings, ideas, etc. Everything to make the DM's life easier, which means fully statted/equipped NPCs (with spells prepared), locations, advice on how to challenge PCs, cool ways to bend or break the rules to create the game you want, etc.</blockquote>

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