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<blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 1001301" data-attributes="member: 518"><p>My perfect world would have all dungeon one month, all poly the next. Then subscribers could pick either one they wanted, or both at a slightly higher subscription discount . We would still have a stand-alone LGJ too <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I like Poly, and a (very) few of the minigames, but not at the expense of Dungeon content (and this is coming from someone who also plays D20 SW, D20 COC, and D20M)</p><p></p><p>I think Erik should take a VERY close look at the first year and half or so of the Dungeon Mags that came out after 3E's release. The quality of writing and adventures was noticeably higher. The Harrowing, Anvil of Time, Raiders of Galaths Roost, The Door from Everyhwere, Eye for an Eye, heck even the very basic Evil Unearthed, are far better than the drek nowadays like "hollow threats" & the "adventure path" (IMO of course).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I also would like to say that subscriber-only ADVENTURES, for lack of a better term, "sucks". If you want to give away some freebie D20 products or extra goodies to those who subscribe, then that is fine & dandy, but shortchanging a newsstand customer of adventures (the reason why he/she is buying Dungeon mag in the first place!) is just plain wrong. I should note I am a former subscriber, and I have been considering subbing again now that Erik is in charge. But subscriber only adventures would not sway me, there are far too many more problems with the current Dunegon/poly for that to make much of a positive difference. However, I know that as a current newsstand buyer (and potentially will remain so), getting less adventures for more cost angers me, and I'll be happy to vote w/ my wallet. I already have by letting my sub run out.</p><p></p><p>One other thing I would like to mention is I keep hearing how much better Dungeon is value-wise than a stand-alone D20 adventure. I disagree with that. That line of thinking only works when you are assuming the reader actually WILL USE all or most of the adventures in that issue. Since we have been getting fewer and fewer adventures as is, there's less for one to be happy with. Now if you like every adventure in every mag, then that's great, but I'm willing to bet that most folks only find a couple of things that are useful in the magazine from month to month. Because I HAVE a choice when I purchase a stand-alone D20 adventure, and DON'T have a choice of what comes in Dunegon Mag, stand alone adventures are a better value for me, than Dungeon mag is in almost every case. A standalone D20 product is a well informed choice, Dungeon mag is a crapshoot in that regard.</p><p></p><p>Thanx for listening</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JeffB, post: 1001301, member: 518"] My perfect world would have all dungeon one month, all poly the next. Then subscribers could pick either one they wanted, or both at a slightly higher subscription discount . We would still have a stand-alone LGJ too :) I like Poly, and a (very) few of the minigames, but not at the expense of Dungeon content (and this is coming from someone who also plays D20 SW, D20 COC, and D20M) I think Erik should take a VERY close look at the first year and half or so of the Dungeon Mags that came out after 3E's release. The quality of writing and adventures was noticeably higher. The Harrowing, Anvil of Time, Raiders of Galaths Roost, The Door from Everyhwere, Eye for an Eye, heck even the very basic Evil Unearthed, are far better than the drek nowadays like "hollow threats" & the "adventure path" (IMO of course). I also would like to say that subscriber-only ADVENTURES, for lack of a better term, "sucks". If you want to give away some freebie D20 products or extra goodies to those who subscribe, then that is fine & dandy, but shortchanging a newsstand customer of adventures (the reason why he/she is buying Dungeon mag in the first place!) is just plain wrong. I should note I am a former subscriber, and I have been considering subbing again now that Erik is in charge. But subscriber only adventures would not sway me, there are far too many more problems with the current Dunegon/poly for that to make much of a positive difference. However, I know that as a current newsstand buyer (and potentially will remain so), getting less adventures for more cost angers me, and I'll be happy to vote w/ my wallet. I already have by letting my sub run out. One other thing I would like to mention is I keep hearing how much better Dungeon is value-wise than a stand-alone D20 adventure. I disagree with that. That line of thinking only works when you are assuming the reader actually WILL USE all or most of the adventures in that issue. Since we have been getting fewer and fewer adventures as is, there's less for one to be happy with. Now if you like every adventure in every mag, then that's great, but I'm willing to bet that most folks only find a couple of things that are useful in the magazine from month to month. Because I HAVE a choice when I purchase a stand-alone D20 adventure, and DON'T have a choice of what comes in Dunegon Mag, stand alone adventures are a better value for me, than Dungeon mag is in almost every case. A standalone D20 product is a well informed choice, Dungeon mag is a crapshoot in that regard. Thanx for listening [/QUOTE]
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