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<blockquote data-quote="ColonelHardisson" data-source="post: 1001431" data-attributes="member: 363"><p>By the way, just so it doesn't seem I'm four-square against anyone:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep, I said that above. Totally agree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I agree totally.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that's good!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Many other have. There have been entire RPGs that have lasted for years based on many of those concepts. Car Wars, TMNT, and Robotech are good examples. Buffy now has its own RPG that has garnered some success. So, I can imagine you'll ask "then why do them as minigames?" Because they stretch the boundaries of what <em>d20</em> can cover. If WotC wants to standardize things with d20 - and that was the intent of the d20 movement - then using the minigames as a test bed for new ways of using the game makes perfect sense. The hope is, I imagine, that one or other of these concepts will catch fire enough to provide the company with a new source of income. They want d20 to cover as much ground as possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hey man, this is the internet, the Home of Hyperbole! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Poly isn't just about fantasy. I think the third party publishers have this well in hand. Matter of fact, one of the things that has baffled me (but I'm easily baffled) is that so few thrid party publishers have tried to go <em>beyond</em> fantasy. But I agree with the OGC part (see one of my earlier posts).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While I don't think this is a bad idea overall, I'll echo what I just said - the third party publishers would be better suited for this. Still, I don't think it's a bad idea. Heck, why not have a minigame that tries to construct a 1e style campaign setting for d20?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't dislike this at all, but Dungeon is the better venue for such material.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I share your enthusiasm for Dynasties & Demagogues (I think it was done by Atlas, by the way). However, the problem with more RP-intensive stuff is that it can shade over into railroaded-plot territory. Something along the lines of Atlas' fine Splintered Peace, though, would be welcome.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, you and I finally seem to be on the same wavelength! While I don't know if Dungeon is necessarily the mag for all this (heck, why not have Dragon divided up into player/DM sections?), I'd love to see a mag like what you're detailing. Still, the thing is - books directed expressly at DMs don't sell as well; there are far fewer DMs than players. It's hard to say if such a mag would be financially viable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ColonelHardisson, post: 1001431, member: 363"] By the way, just so it doesn't seem I'm four-square against anyone: Yep, I said that above. Totally agree. Again, I agree totally. Well, that's good! Many other have. There have been entire RPGs that have lasted for years based on many of those concepts. Car Wars, TMNT, and Robotech are good examples. Buffy now has its own RPG that has garnered some success. So, I can imagine you'll ask "then why do them as minigames?" Because they stretch the boundaries of what [i]d20[/i] can cover. If WotC wants to standardize things with d20 - and that was the intent of the d20 movement - then using the minigames as a test bed for new ways of using the game makes perfect sense. The hope is, I imagine, that one or other of these concepts will catch fire enough to provide the company with a new source of income. They want d20 to cover as much ground as possible. Hey man, this is the internet, the Home of Hyperbole! ;) Poly isn't just about fantasy. I think the third party publishers have this well in hand. Matter of fact, one of the things that has baffled me (but I'm easily baffled) is that so few thrid party publishers have tried to go [i]beyond[/i] fantasy. But I agree with the OGC part (see one of my earlier posts). While I don't think this is a bad idea overall, I'll echo what I just said - the third party publishers would be better suited for this. Still, I don't think it's a bad idea. Heck, why not have a minigame that tries to construct a 1e style campaign setting for d20? I don't dislike this at all, but Dungeon is the better venue for such material. I share your enthusiasm for Dynasties & Demagogues (I think it was done by Atlas, by the way). However, the problem with more RP-intensive stuff is that it can shade over into railroaded-plot territory. Something along the lines of Atlas' fine Splintered Peace, though, would be welcome. Well, you and I finally seem to be on the same wavelength! While I don't know if Dungeon is necessarily the mag for all this (heck, why not have Dragon divided up into player/DM sections?), I'd love to see a mag like what you're detailing. Still, the thing is - books directed expressly at DMs don't sell as well; there are far fewer DMs than players. It's hard to say if such a mag would be financially viable. [/QUOTE]
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