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[Rant] Do editing/proofreading errors drive you mad, too?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 3448394" data-attributes="member: 20239"><p>Two points. 1) That's why I suggest above having Betty who normally answers the phones and ships the orders sit at a desk for 8 hours and read it. There are fresh eyes available if you need them. 2) From what I saw of the first draft of OSRIC, it was hundreds of times better in the editing department than the products I'm speaking to. I write quite a bit of technical stuff for my job (things that need to be very professionally done) and I always have someone else proof my work, but they don't catch mistakes like duplicated words, misspellings, missing words, added words, cut-off sentences, words without spaces between them, etc. because I do a spell/grammar check and my own read through before handing it off to someone else and I catch all of the obvious errors. That's what I'm complaining about here, not companies who miss <u>errors</u> but companies who don't even put in the minimal effort it takes to catch <u>obvious errors</u>. As far as I could tell, OSRIC was mostly free of those kinds of <u>obvious</u> errors from the initial release, which further strengthens my point AFAIAC. If a non-profit, free product can be released that contains maybe 1% (at most) of the errors that you might find in a similar sized book from, for example, Black Industries that people pay upwards of $30 for, then it should be possible for the company actually <u>charging money</u> for their product to achieve a similar level of quality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See my responses to P&P above (except in reverse order). I'm not complaining about tense changes or rules minutia here, I'm complaining about obvious errors that anyone with the ability to write a coherent sentence would see if they simply looked over the text (even the original author).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you're missing my point. I'm specifically saying these companies don't need to hire extra people, they simply need to re-prioritize the activities of their extant employees. The cost to change those priorities is not the cost of hiring a new employee it's the cost of losing out on 8 hours of whatever work that employee would otherwise be doing. If you take the guy who normally ships your packages, answers your phones and does your billing, sit him down at a desk for 8 hours and have him proofread 4 chapters of the next book you are shipping, you are losing the cost of whatever 8 hours of his normal work is worth to you. You are NOT re-paying the entire cost of his employment because you'd be paying for taxes, insurance, work space, accounting, vacation and benefits for that employee anyway.</p><p></p><p>Then the question becomes, is shipping a quality product more important to you than being a day behind on your shipping and billing? IMO it should be, because companies who ship lots of sloppy product on time are still shipping sloppy product that's not worth the $30 price tag they are charging.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ourph, post: 3448394, member: 20239"] Two points. 1) That's why I suggest above having Betty who normally answers the phones and ships the orders sit at a desk for 8 hours and read it. There are fresh eyes available if you need them. 2) From what I saw of the first draft of OSRIC, it was hundreds of times better in the editing department than the products I'm speaking to. I write quite a bit of technical stuff for my job (things that need to be very professionally done) and I always have someone else proof my work, but they don't catch mistakes like duplicated words, misspellings, missing words, added words, cut-off sentences, words without spaces between them, etc. because I do a spell/grammar check and my own read through before handing it off to someone else and I catch all of the obvious errors. That's what I'm complaining about here, not companies who miss [u]errors[/u] but companies who don't even put in the minimal effort it takes to catch [u]obvious errors[/u]. As far as I could tell, OSRIC was mostly free of those kinds of [u]obvious[/u] errors from the initial release, which further strengthens my point AFAIAC. If a non-profit, free product can be released that contains maybe 1% (at most) of the errors that you might find in a similar sized book from, for example, Black Industries that people pay upwards of $30 for, then it should be possible for the company actually [u]charging money[/u] for their product to achieve a similar level of quality. See my responses to P&P above (except in reverse order). I'm not complaining about tense changes or rules minutia here, I'm complaining about obvious errors that anyone with the ability to write a coherent sentence would see if they simply looked over the text (even the original author). I think you're missing my point. I'm specifically saying these companies don't need to hire extra people, they simply need to re-prioritize the activities of their extant employees. The cost to change those priorities is not the cost of hiring a new employee it's the cost of losing out on 8 hours of whatever work that employee would otherwise be doing. If you take the guy who normally ships your packages, answers your phones and does your billing, sit him down at a desk for 8 hours and have him proofread 4 chapters of the next book you are shipping, you are losing the cost of whatever 8 hours of his normal work is worth to you. You are NOT re-paying the entire cost of his employment because you'd be paying for taxes, insurance, work space, accounting, vacation and benefits for that employee anyway. Then the question becomes, is shipping a quality product more important to you than being a day behind on your shipping and billing? IMO it should be, because companies who ship lots of sloppy product on time are still shipping sloppy product that's not worth the $30 price tag they are charging. [/QUOTE]
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