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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2927966" data-attributes="member: 2205">Wow.&nbsp; Only two pages in, and we've been already confronted with the dreaded &quot;sense of wonder&quot; pall of death, rounser trying to completely redefine literary genre tags to suit himself (and then have the audacity to tell anyone who disagrees with them that they're being obfuscatory) and jdrakeh implying that anyone who disagrees with him is a novice or contractual lackey.&nbsp; To say nothing of all the &quot;don't tell me how to think!&quot; drama queenery earlier on.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm genuinely sorry that I decided to read the whole thread before responding.&nbsp;&nbsp; :\ For what it's worth, Jürgen, I agree with you, and the artificial narrowing of the genre by some of the more strident D&amp;D fans is a pet peeve of mine.&nbsp; I've certainly never felt constrained by any such limitations.&nbsp; My own personal favorite homebrew setting, that I've been tinkering with and writing in for a few years now, has very few of the &quot;traditional fantasy&quot; trappings.&nbsp; No elves.&nbsp; No dwarves.&nbsp; No wizards.&nbsp; As a shorthand, I've often described it as Edgar Rice Burroughs (especially Barsoom) combined with Robert E. Howard, H.P Lovecraft and Sergio Leone and chromed with a healthy amount of steampunk.&nbsp; While it's a far cry from D&amp;D or Tolkien, I'd really like to see how in the world anyone could make a coherent case that it's not fantasy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 2927966, member: 2205"] Wow. Only two pages in, and we've been already confronted with the dreaded "sense of wonder" pall of death, rounser trying to completely redefine literary genre tags to suit himself (and then have the audacity to tell anyone who disagrees with them that [i]they're[/i] being obfuscatory) and jdrakeh implying that anyone who disagrees with [i]him[/i] is a novice or contractual lackey. To say nothing of all the "don't tell me how to think!" drama queenery earlier on. I'm genuinely sorry that I decided to read the whole thread before responding. :\ For what it's worth, Jürgen, I agree with you, and the artificial narrowing of the genre by some of the more strident D&D fans is a pet peeve of mine. I've certainly never felt constrained by any such limitations. My own personal favorite homebrew setting, that I've been tinkering with and writing in for a few years now, has very few of the "traditional fantasy" trappings. No elves. No dwarves. No wizards. As a shorthand, I've often described it as Edgar Rice Burroughs (especially Barsoom) combined with Robert E. Howard, H.P Lovecraft and Sergio Leone and chromed with a healthy amount of steampunk. While it's a [i]far[/i] cry from D&D or Tolkien, I'd really like to see how in the world anyone could make a coherent case that it's not fantasy. [/QUOTE]

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