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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 392910" data-attributes="member: 4720">Where did that definition of enligtenment come from?&nbsp; I was under the impression that enlightenment was supposed to bring with it compassion for all beings (i.e. it's definitively Good).Which, to bring this back on the topic of role-playing restrictions, is an irritant of mine.&nbsp; In my mind, druids are Good, not Neutral.&nbsp; And Barbarian societies were often VERY lawful.&nbsp; Really, the only alignment restriction that makes sense to me is the paladin's.&nbsp; Supposedly, monks need to be lawful because discipline is required.&nbsp; But can't a person who believes that individuals are much more important than the society (a Chaotic trait) also be disciplined?&nbsp; Heck, there are whole philosophies based around those two ideas.&nbsp; If you use the society vs. individual version of Law vs. Chaos, druids are definitively Lawful.&nbsp; And if monks are Lawful because they need discipline, what about wizards?&nbsp; Guys who learn to cast spells through study and research don't need great discipline?&nbsp; And, despite the obvious cultural flaws, Barbarians are Chaotic because they Rage?&nbsp; So a Lawful Cleric or paladin couldn't go into a Holy Rage when witnessing an atrocity?The whole Law-Chaos axis is such muddy water that having restrictions based around it is sadistic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 392910, member: 4720"] Where did that definition of enligtenment come from? I was under the impression that enlightenment was supposed to bring with it compassion for all beings (i.e. it's definitively Good). Which, to bring this back on the topic of role-playing restrictions, is an irritant of mine. In my mind, druids are Good, not Neutral. And Barbarian societies were often VERY lawful. Really, the only alignment restriction that makes sense to me is the paladin's. Supposedly, monks need to be lawful because discipline is required. But can't a person who believes that individuals are much more important than the society (a Chaotic trait) also be disciplined? Heck, there are whole philosophies based around those two ideas. If you use the society vs. individual version of Law vs. Chaos, druids are definitively Lawful. And if monks are Lawful because they need discipline, what about wizards? Guys who learn to cast spells through study and research don't need great discipline? And, despite the obvious cultural flaws, Barbarians are Chaotic because they Rage? So a Lawful Cleric or paladin couldn't go into a Holy Rage when witnessing an atrocity? The whole Law-Chaos axis is such muddy water that having restrictions based around it is sadistic. [/QUOTE]

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