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Rant -- GM Control, Taking it Too Far?
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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4674941" data-attributes="member: 65637"><p>I think the disconnect for me is that I've never seen D&D - in any edition - as a game that ever <em>could</em> be 100% serious. If they were playing, say, Promethean, then I suppose it could be vaguely possible, but even then, a campaign that never gets silly? That isn't going to happen. Forget characters for a minute, there's no way <em>players</em> are going to somehow disconnect the idea of humor from the game. And good grief, that's a good thing. Imagine a world without black humor, or without little bits of silliness at even the worst of times. What a horrible, horrible concept.</p><p></p><p>Taking control away from the players doesn't help the game. It just pisses them off. You can suggest that a character changes the name, but you never force it, because then all you have is an angry player. And if they choose not to change it, so long as it's nothing obscene, <em>play with it and see how it goes</em>. If Marshmallow is a problem with other players and yourself, then yeah, pull the offender aside and talk to them. But if the only one getting their face red is you, then maybe the pet isn't the problem.</p><p></p><p>The bad DM says "No," the good DM says "Maybe," the really good DM says "Roll and we'll find out." The issue here is that, quite frankly, I still don't see the issue with "Marshmallow," and I don't think the player did either. And the DM hasn't really offered a reason for it as well, other then "It didn't fit the tone." We don't know what the tone is. We don't know what the other characters or NPCs were named. All we know is that the DM said "No, screw you, that's banned."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 4674941, member: 65637"] I think the disconnect for me is that I've never seen D&D - in any edition - as a game that ever [I]could[/I] be 100% serious. If they were playing, say, Promethean, then I suppose it could be vaguely possible, but even then, a campaign that never gets silly? That isn't going to happen. Forget characters for a minute, there's no way [I]players[/I] are going to somehow disconnect the idea of humor from the game. And good grief, that's a good thing. Imagine a world without black humor, or without little bits of silliness at even the worst of times. What a horrible, horrible concept. Taking control away from the players doesn't help the game. It just pisses them off. You can suggest that a character changes the name, but you never force it, because then all you have is an angry player. And if they choose not to change it, so long as it's nothing obscene, [I]play with it and see how it goes[/I]. If Marshmallow is a problem with other players and yourself, then yeah, pull the offender aside and talk to them. But if the only one getting their face red is you, then maybe the pet isn't the problem. The bad DM says "No," the good DM says "Maybe," the really good DM says "Roll and we'll find out." The issue here is that, quite frankly, I still don't see the issue with "Marshmallow," and I don't think the player did either. And the DM hasn't really offered a reason for it as well, other then "It didn't fit the tone." We don't know what the tone is. We don't know what the other characters or NPCs were named. All we know is that the DM said "No, screw you, that's banned." [/QUOTE]
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