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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 1353558" data-attributes="member: 9037">I can see why you feel frustrated. I have seen things like this in my own gaming life. A lot of times I think it comes from a lack of undrstanding what each person is really saying. That is often caused by people having a different defination for words like role play, powergame ect.I play with one group who think that they role play take pride that they are not powergamers and that to them when they build a character concept they are talking more than just skills and feats.The things is, is that they are a bunch of powergames who ideas of character concept is what class mixes works best and what little role play they do is really based on the minium needed to get infomation from an NPC. If they advertised for a new player I am sure they would say looking for a non powergaming role player and lords help if they really got that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The only reason I play is that my son runs the game and I like to spend time with him and it is only for a limited time every other Saturday. And I use it try out different mechnical character concepts.</blockquote>