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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 627294" data-attributes="member: 6533">I'm not making any specific comments on the situation at hand, but in my experience two things generally apply to such incidents:1.)  Both individuals are being asses in their own way.2.)  There is nothing unusual about someone being 'reasonable' and still being an ass.Certainly there isn't anything inherently 'unreasonable' or asslike, and I always refer to the noble beast of burden, in the point of view that an RPG session is about telling a story and the story isn't served by the party dying in the hallway.  So let's move the story along and travel down the hallway.I've known a lot of players who thought of this sort of thinking as a courtesy to the DM and the group.  And a lot of DMs for whom this thinking is absolutely accurate.Further, anyone who is not upset over the unexpected death of not only his own character but his friends' as well is probably not too into the game.  And anyone who wouldn't be embarassed by the incidents described is questionable in their own right.And in the final analysis, 20 years old is not old enough to guarantee maturity on such a level that everyone around that person should expect it all the time.  20 sure ain't a kid, but it's not old enough to drink or run for most public offices for a reason. Heck it's not exactly reasonable to expect everyone to act a mature fashion when under stress no matter what age is involved.My only conclusion from the above thoughts to the situation is that it certainly is not a judgement that should be made in terms of the idea that someone was or was not being reasonable and someone else was or was not being an ass.BTW, as a Powerhungry DM I am both unreasonable and an Ass so I have a lot of authority by experience in these matters.</blockquote>

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