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<blockquote data-quote="Frosty" data-source="post: 231984" data-attributes="member: 5098"><p>The greatest strength of D&D is and has always been it's controversial issues. The controversy makes people remember the game for more than it is. In this debate I sometimes agree with vturlough and sometimes with Psion but I eat it all up. I've been gaming for as long as the rest of you guys and I've been a member and frequent poster here since the very beginning but I'm still not jaded or fed up with the controversy. It's the reason I come back. Sure, sometimes it gets repetitive but every so often someone brings a new gem to the boards which allow me to ponder the game from a new perspective. I love it.</p><p></p><p>About that class basis for D&D I'd like to share with you that I haven't created a core class character for a long time. I understand the philosophy behind 3ed and I'm familiar with the system and the min/max-options so I can create a character from the PHB by simply picking the things I like. My DM let's me do this because he realises why I do it. I don't do it to make a more powerful set of numbers but a more powerful character. That doesn't mean they are worthless on the grid - they can hold their own - but it means that they are a little different and might surprise you once in awhile. I encourage you to experiment with the rules when creating a character. Remember to add a fail-safe to the character, though. If I invent a custom class for a character I might make the character an outsider for example. Because if the DM feels my creation threatens game-balance he can kill it - and my friends can't raise me. Or I might give the DM a reason in my background to retire me hastily. Yet, he hasn't needed to and I won't argue with him, either.</p><p></p><p>When it comes to AC and hitpoints I used to agree with vturlough. I thought the idea of abstract health was silly. By playing the game though, to high levels (currently 18), I've learned that the system works and feels realistic. (Except for the parade-example of the falling barabarian, but that is easily solved with some common sense, eh?). At higher levels you lose hitpoints by the handful in melee and it certainly conveys the feeling of having big chunks of flesh being torn from your body. Sometimes and isolated example seems ludicrous but in the heat of the action during the game it all seems plausible and it works. Perhaps the audience would find it cheesy but luckily we don't have one. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>My gripe with the game is that it doesn't endcourage role-playing but no one agrees with me so I'll let that slide... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frosty, post: 231984, member: 5098"] The greatest strength of D&D is and has always been it's controversial issues. The controversy makes people remember the game for more than it is. In this debate I sometimes agree with vturlough and sometimes with Psion but I eat it all up. I've been gaming for as long as the rest of you guys and I've been a member and frequent poster here since the very beginning but I'm still not jaded or fed up with the controversy. It's the reason I come back. Sure, sometimes it gets repetitive but every so often someone brings a new gem to the boards which allow me to ponder the game from a new perspective. I love it. About that class basis for D&D I'd like to share with you that I haven't created a core class character for a long time. I understand the philosophy behind 3ed and I'm familiar with the system and the min/max-options so I can create a character from the PHB by simply picking the things I like. My DM let's me do this because he realises why I do it. I don't do it to make a more powerful set of numbers but a more powerful character. That doesn't mean they are worthless on the grid - they can hold their own - but it means that they are a little different and might surprise you once in awhile. I encourage you to experiment with the rules when creating a character. Remember to add a fail-safe to the character, though. If I invent a custom class for a character I might make the character an outsider for example. Because if the DM feels my creation threatens game-balance he can kill it - and my friends can't raise me. Or I might give the DM a reason in my background to retire me hastily. Yet, he hasn't needed to and I won't argue with him, either. When it comes to AC and hitpoints I used to agree with vturlough. I thought the idea of abstract health was silly. By playing the game though, to high levels (currently 18), I've learned that the system works and feels realistic. (Except for the parade-example of the falling barabarian, but that is easily solved with some common sense, eh?). At higher levels you lose hitpoints by the handful in melee and it certainly conveys the feeling of having big chunks of flesh being torn from your body. Sometimes and isolated example seems ludicrous but in the heat of the action during the game it all seems plausible and it works. Perhaps the audience would find it cheesy but luckily we don't have one. ;) My gripe with the game is that it doesn't endcourage role-playing but no one agrees with me so I'll let that slide... :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
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