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<blockquote data-quote="Ninja-to" data-source="post: 5507701" data-attributes="member: 19551"><p>Yeah it's a sweet deal for you, but not for Wizards.</p><p></p><p>This is my point exactly. People will stop buying rushed, unfinished work in print form especially when they had the option of the CB which gets updated constantly. CB was like a lifeline, more for us than for them, which got cut when the new CB rolled out unexpectedly. Now the people who stopped buying shoddily edited books and opted for the digital (old) CB were told that the only thing they were willing to spend money on was cancelled. Not a surprise that Wizards is now in deep water. Yes, there are some that are happy with the new CB. There are many, many more who have cancelled their DDI subscriptions solely because of it.</p><p></p><p>What should have happened is that the old CB was maintained as it was, improved upon (rather than divide resources to a newer but inferior tool) and refocus on cleaning up the the print side of production. <em>Release less</em>, but make more money from people actually <em>buying</em> the books due to regained confidence in them. You can print 100 books a month, but if they're riddled with typos, errors and are planned poorly, how is it surprising that few people will buy them. </p><p></p><p>Suggesting slowing down production to fix poor workmanship would drive up costs and reduce revenue makes no sense. It should have the totally opposite effect. I see 4th Ed books on the shelves in stores and just keep walking due to the fact I know a fair chunk of the material needs errata. For some, they don't care. They are happy to sit there with pages of errata, read it or glue it into their books or whatever it is they do. Personally it's not for me and the rest of my gaming group feels the same.</p><p></p><p>I think Wizards slowing down production to make their material better quality is a very good thing. However, the timing is bad. It is now at a point where I believe many consumers such as myself have lost trust and faith in the products. The pirates are still winning. Sadly it is much safer to wait a few months and see how much errata is released rather than actually buy the book. If the errata goes on for 5+ pages... that book just doesn't get purchased, at least by me. I suspect there are many others who feel the same.</p><p></p><p>For those who keep asking about 'recent threads' about CB and DDI in general. The original post is 2 days old.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-discussion/303305-can-wizards-turn-around-their-d-d-support.html" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-discussion/303305-can-wizards-turn-around-their-d-d-support.html</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ninja-to, post: 5507701, member: 19551"] Yeah it's a sweet deal for you, but not for Wizards. This is my point exactly. People will stop buying rushed, unfinished work in print form especially when they had the option of the CB which gets updated constantly. CB was like a lifeline, more for us than for them, which got cut when the new CB rolled out unexpectedly. Now the people who stopped buying shoddily edited books and opted for the digital (old) CB were told that the only thing they were willing to spend money on was cancelled. Not a surprise that Wizards is now in deep water. Yes, there are some that are happy with the new CB. There are many, many more who have cancelled their DDI subscriptions solely because of it. What should have happened is that the old CB was maintained as it was, improved upon (rather than divide resources to a newer but inferior tool) and refocus on cleaning up the the print side of production. [I]Release less[/I], but make more money from people actually [I]buying[/I] the books due to regained confidence in them. You can print 100 books a month, but if they're riddled with typos, errors and are planned poorly, how is it surprising that few people will buy them. Suggesting slowing down production to fix poor workmanship would drive up costs and reduce revenue makes no sense. It should have the totally opposite effect. I see 4th Ed books on the shelves in stores and just keep walking due to the fact I know a fair chunk of the material needs errata. For some, they don't care. They are happy to sit there with pages of errata, read it or glue it into their books or whatever it is they do. Personally it's not for me and the rest of my gaming group feels the same. I think Wizards slowing down production to make their material better quality is a very good thing. However, the timing is bad. It is now at a point where I believe many consumers such as myself have lost trust and faith in the products. The pirates are still winning. Sadly it is much safer to wait a few months and see how much errata is released rather than actually buy the book. If the errata goes on for 5+ pages... that book just doesn't get purchased, at least by me. I suspect there are many others who feel the same. For those who keep asking about 'recent threads' about CB and DDI in general. The original post is 2 days old. [url]http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-discussion/303305-can-wizards-turn-around-their-d-d-support.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
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