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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xeriar" data-source="post: 966974" data-attributes="member: 4116">[PLAIN]Re: Re: Re: [Rant] On Spell Focus...[/PLAIN]It's also fairly easy to get impossible-to-beat Fort, Ref and Will save bonuses, and no word that this issue has been addressed.A person with weapon focus generally is going to have that weapon more often than a wizard with spell focus is going to have spells of that school at the ready.In addition, Fighters (and other classes) can get weapon focus as bonus feats - and mosty only need or want to take it for a single weapon anyway, whereas the case for Spell Focus is only true for a specialist Wizard.Also, Weapon Focus is a prerequisite to more feats, and more importantly, more varied feats.At +1, it seems wiser to invest in feats such as spell penetration, spell girding, augmented summoning and other types that do not rely on DCs.Arcane Defense does not increase spell DCs - just saves against that specific school. You say 'all' like there are a lot of things that raise them.Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes and Great Fortitude still provide +2 each.Resistance, Insight and Luck bonuses to saves are all dirt cheap magically - there is no magical item that directly raises spell DCs.And they raise -all- saves (more importantly). DC 28?  Would 24 have made much of a difference in 2 rounds?Especially with dragons running around, players ought to be really self-concious about saves - their DCs get even worse than any wizards.Feats like Spell Penetration, Spell Girding, and other creative types are certainly more valueable than the revised Spell Focus so yes - +0 please, in spades and then some, and I'll take seconds, thirds, fourths and fifths.I also see people boost their saves into the stratosphere.  Paladin with +25 or better to all saves?  No problem!  Oi...</blockquote>

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