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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 967301" data-attributes="member: 172">I've already banned archmage in my campaign. The main wizard is an grey elf with spell focus and spell prodigy, and I still find unadjusted mosnters make their saves a fair proportion of the time. If with that optimized of a character it's not an issue, I'm not especially convinced that in general it's an issue.Add to the archmage that buffs have also been nerfed, I think that the case for nerfing spellfocus as part of a general DC-nerfing campaign is a lot weaker.I am saying that a smaller proportion of a spellcaster's spells will fall under the feat that the number of attacks a fighter will use. Pretty much, with the exception of switching between melee and missile, the fighter will always be using their weapon of preference if they have the choice.I see multiple references in various threads to dodge being improved. I don't have access to the compiled changes list to verify.I'm not saying that they should be. The should be about as useful as any feat you could take at first level.Ah, but Andy Collins himself confesses that SF would be "alright" if it weren't for GSF. But that begs the question, if one feat for +2 is "alright", how is two feats for the same bonus not "weak"?Nerfing SF for GSF is throwing the baby out with the bathwater AFAIAC.Does it? I'm not convinced. You are drawing too direct a correlation between the two, but I don't think that the magnitude of SF is that big a factor in the utility of the save boosters. The more common saves for a PC will probably not involve SF at all, being things like poison saves, traps, unenhances spellcasters, and spell like and supernatural abilities. Either they are worth it now or they are not; a +1 difference in SF does not weigh greatly on this.That could well be. But my issue is not so much that they nerfed GSF as they nerfed SF.GSF... well, I'm not convinced either way yet on that one, other than to say, again, our anecdotes differ.</blockquote>

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