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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 3837049" data-attributes="member: 4275">Except that the OP watched part of the original presentation (not even all of it), that was put out months ago, and then came to complain that there wasn't enough information.We've gotten a lot more information since then.Obviously not enough to please some people, but there has been plenty of specifics, especially now that we have a complete monster statblock.There has also been specific mechancis discussed.Again, some people, quite obviously, won't be satisfied by anything other than full disclosure, which will have to wait for the books.It also seems that some people are just looking for something to complain about.   Dude, what?Sure, there's limits to what the designers can say.And yeah, those limits probably come from the top.But then you go off on this whole "faceless corporation" thing. I'd be willing to bet the people who set those limits are some of the very people posting on these blogs. This game is 8 months away. They can't tell us everything yet.I'd be willing to bet that the "faceless corporation" making that call are probably guys like Scott.Sharing a lot doesn't equal sharing everything. Not sharing everything doesn't immediately turn you into a Morley-smoking Cancer Man having a late-night meeting with Deep Throat and a bunch of other "faceless corporates" in the parking garage of the Watergate Hotel. It's also important to remember that some people won't be pleased no matter how good their service is.It's almost important to remember that those who complain the loudest are rarely in the majority.Not really. This is crunch time. They just changed course and decided to ship all the books at once, rather than staggering them over a 3 month span.You think that might have put a little unexpected time pressure on folks?And of course, they did this because of retailer and player feedback.In other words, a major change of course because we asked for it.   You mean, not everyone likes everything they're hearing about the game?Whoa. That's heavy. I feel like I'm being fired. And plenty of other people have reported that they have seen both of these problems, to various degrees.In other words, just because you personally haven't had any of these problems, that doesn't mean other people haven't.Your experiences are your experiences. Wait, you mean Wizards should answer every concern posted by everyone, on every message board?It seems to me that Wizards has been pretty responsive. Sometimes about little things, but other times about really enormous ones.Again, shipping all the books in one month leaps to mind. Ah, and here you completely go off the rails.Yes, "many people" will never ever forgive Wizards to doing something differently with the magazines they own, that they felt was in THEIR best interests.Yes, "many people" will never, ever forgive Wizards for daring to make a new edition of the game without consulting them personally. "Many people" make outrageous demands on others that should have no expectation of being met.If I own a car, and I decide to sell it, you have no right to complain to me, because its MY car. Even if you chipped in for gas every week. Wizards doesn't expect us to buy 4e just because it's "good for them".They have a product they're offering, they think we'll like it, they're offering to sell it to us.That's it.This anti-corporate vibe you give off is really weird to me. They're making something new. They hope we'll like it. That is all. Clearly some folks don't, and that's cool. But that doesn't mean they're a devious, faceless corporation attempting to pawn something worthless off on you using nothing but vague generalities either.Not pleasing everyone does not equal being incompetent.Not giving out enough information RIGHT NOW to answer every question, on every message board, in real time doesn't mean they're holding back.</blockquote>

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