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<blockquote data-quote="Jedi_Solo" data-source="post: 3845082" data-attributes="member: 40245">Yes.&nbsp; The numbers may change so then thy risk people having seen the numbers to claim that WotC lied to them (people are already claiming this - justified or not - but from WotC's standpoint the less hard evidence the fans can throw at them the better).Let's say there is a wizard power called &quot;Pushback&quot;.&nbsp; It may be a very cool power and the designers may be very proud of it.&nbsp; Let's say this power can push someone back 10 feet when it is sent off for playtesting.&nbsp; It comes back as 'too powerful' or whatever and is then reduced to moving someone back 5 feet.&nbsp; Not that much of a change but people will complain that the Pushback ability got nerfed.Not exactly a big change... People will complain about something if they are given free money and that because magic missile can't destroy entire plains of existance it isn't powerful enough.&nbsp; Whoop-de-doo.But what if Pushback was deemed too powerful at 5 feet and got completely removed?&nbsp; Then WotC 'promised' an ability that didn't make the cut.What if WotC gave the full mechanical writeup on the Halfling and the finished product (because of play testing) had a completely different set of numbers?&nbsp; What if they gave us four feats and through sheer luck all four of those feats came out completely different in the final book?&nbsp; What if the six spells they gave us were changed or entirely removed?Sure, we know that at this point everything is in flux.&nbsp; They can say 'things may change' all they want but some people ignore that tag on the Superman cape that says 'does not enable wearer to fly'.&nbsp; It's just a lot safer to give out fluff because the numbers might change.&nbsp; No matter what Dragon's Tail Cut ends up being called it's still a trip attack - how that trip attacks function may change, but it still trips.Once the numbers are finalized (whenever that is) I'm sure we'll see more crunch come out;&nbsp; but as long as they can't be sure that +2 won't be a +1 or a +3 we won't see the hard numbers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jedi_Solo, post: 3845082, member: 40245"] Yes. The numbers may change so then thy risk people having seen the numbers to claim that WotC lied to them (people are already claiming this - justified or not - but from WotC's standpoint the less hard evidence the fans can throw at them the better). Let's say there is a wizard power called "Pushback". It may be a very cool power and the designers may be very proud of it. Let's say this power can push someone back 10 feet when it is sent off for playtesting. It comes back as 'too powerful' or whatever and is then reduced to moving someone back 5 feet. Not that much of a change but people will complain that the Pushback ability got nerfed. Not exactly a big change... People will complain about something if they are given free money and that because magic missile can't destroy entire plains of existance it isn't powerful enough. Whoop-de-doo. But what if Pushback was deemed too powerful at 5 feet and got completely removed? Then WotC 'promised' an ability that didn't make the cut. What if WotC gave the full mechanical writeup on the Halfling and the finished product (because of play testing) had a completely different set of numbers? What if they gave us four feats and through sheer luck all four of those feats came out completely different in the final book? What if the six spells they gave us were changed or entirely removed? Sure, we know that at this point everything is in flux. They can say 'things may change' all they want but some people ignore that tag on the Superman cape that says 'does not enable wearer to fly'. It's just a lot safer to give out fluff because the numbers might change. No matter what Dragon's Tail Cut ends up being called it's still a trip attack - how that trip attacks function may change, but it still trips. Once the numbers are finalized (whenever that is) I'm sure we'll see more crunch come out; but as long as they can't be sure that +2 won't be a +1 or a +3 we won't see the hard numbers. [/QUOTE]

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