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<blockquote data-quote="Midknightsun" data-source="post: 3845872" data-attributes="member: 46459"><p>If they give you everything you wanted, would there be a book to purchase? Wow, talk about an overreaction to my very neutral Email. Look, I'm sorry WotC isn't giving you everything YOU want. You're just proving my point that not everyone is going to be happy with what WotC is doing. On the other hand, I wanted Scott to know that not everyone is spinning in circles either. Complaining about me not complaining is funny on levels I can't even verbalize.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, which is neither here nor there. I hear you saying, "I want more information, and as a paying customer who has no other choice (which you do) I think its only fair that you give it to me." That's absolutley fine and dandy to believe, but how much is enough? How much do they have nailed down that may not get slightly shuffled? Should they throw out everything for their customer base to comment on? If they don't give you what you want, are they beign a faceless corporate entity hell-bent on wrecking DND for you? And who didn't get what they wanted because you did? If you don't have a personal say in what comes out, it means they're trying to marginalize you? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People bitching on a internet forum represents very little, IME, except mental masturbation.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Honestly, it looks like a lot of people are liking what they are seeing, of course, some others do not. WotC, like all other companies, knows it can't make everyone happy. Just can't be done. And everyone has their little parcel of "must have" or "must not have", all of which contradict someone else, somewhere, at some point. Yet everyone assumes their completely contradictory viewpoints are all perfectly logical ways to go with the game insofar as creation and promotion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you're misunderstanding me here. You want a system that works well, and are vocalizing your concerns, therefore you want to contribute. Of course, what works well for one, may not for another. So someone, somewhere is going to be houseruling regardless. Therefore, sometimes you gotta meet find the best answer that satisfies the most people. Not satisfying you or even me on a specific point or points does not imply it is heading in the wrong direction, or won't work well "out of the box."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Me too! And I have no illusions that the marketing is hyped. Marketing often is. Though many times within that hype is mixed the actual excitement of the people involved in its creation, and not necessarily some corporate entity shoving their hands up the rear ends of the developers and designers and telling them what to speak.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes indeed. Thank you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Midknightsun, post: 3845872, member: 46459"] If they give you everything you wanted, would there be a book to purchase? Wow, talk about an overreaction to my very neutral Email. Look, I'm sorry WotC isn't giving you everything YOU want. You're just proving my point that not everyone is going to be happy with what WotC is doing. On the other hand, I wanted Scott to know that not everyone is spinning in circles either. Complaining about me not complaining is funny on levels I can't even verbalize. Right, which is neither here nor there. I hear you saying, "I want more information, and as a paying customer who has no other choice (which you do) I think its only fair that you give it to me." That's absolutley fine and dandy to believe, but how much is enough? How much do they have nailed down that may not get slightly shuffled? Should they throw out everything for their customer base to comment on? If they don't give you what you want, are they beign a faceless corporate entity hell-bent on wrecking DND for you? And who didn't get what they wanted because you did? If you don't have a personal say in what comes out, it means they're trying to marginalize you? People bitching on a internet forum represents very little, IME, except mental masturbation. Honestly, it looks like a lot of people are liking what they are seeing, of course, some others do not. WotC, like all other companies, knows it can't make everyone happy. Just can't be done. And everyone has their little parcel of "must have" or "must not have", all of which contradict someone else, somewhere, at some point. Yet everyone assumes their completely contradictory viewpoints are all perfectly logical ways to go with the game insofar as creation and promotion. I think you're misunderstanding me here. You want a system that works well, and are vocalizing your concerns, therefore you want to contribute. Of course, what works well for one, may not for another. So someone, somewhere is going to be houseruling regardless. Therefore, sometimes you gotta meet find the best answer that satisfies the most people. Not satisfying you or even me on a specific point or points does not imply it is heading in the wrong direction, or won't work well "out of the box." Me too! And I have no illusions that the marketing is hyped. Marketing often is. Though many times within that hype is mixed the actual excitement of the people involved in its creation, and not necessarily some corporate entity shoving their hands up the rear ends of the developers and designers and telling them what to speak. Yes indeed. Thank you. [/QUOTE]
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