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<blockquote data-quote="broghammerj" data-source="post: 3846122" data-attributes="member: 1869"><p>I apologize. You took personal issue with how I wrote my post and upon re-reading it I see how it can easily be inferred that I was attacking you. I was making more a generic statement. I just don't think releasing more crunch would cause people to not buy books. Especially when you're talking about a niche hobbie with rare alternatives that is upgrading to a new edition. I agree that you could release everything and then have no reason to buy a book but that is just silly. I, nor anybody else is really expecting that.</p><p></p><p>How many people have to be unhappy to be considered signficant? I don't know the answer but it is food for thought.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The choices to play "DnD" are limited if it is redefined with a new edition. If stuff is not nailed down by now to reveal a few feats, spells, etc then I am a bit worried.</p><p></p><p>You will find no where that I have implied they are a faceless hellbent corporation. I am simply saying their marketing campaign doesn't do it for me and is a bit poor. I don't think they're personally trying to marginalize me but if enough people are turned off and disinterested there will be problems. I think the history of 2E and player loss speaks for itself.</p><p></p><p>In my mind look at the big picture. DnD Insider has hardly proven it's something I want to subscribe to. If this is the preview information I am getting for a major new release, then why bother with all the previews for the future splat books?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except for the fact it got the Eberon timeline to stay static and got rid of things like Dragon Tail Cut.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You and I are on the same page. I agree their will be changes to the system, some of which I have been vocal about. However, I don't think my comments have been directed at the system. I have tried to direct them toward the poor marketing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Marketing should provide both hype and real info. I think the scales are tipped to include more hype. I have no doubt the designers are passionate about the game. The problem is they haven't made me passionate about it. It's not because I don't want to see a new incarnation of DnD. On the contrary I do. Regardless, I'll buy the core to see for myself but I am not so sure everyone else will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="broghammerj, post: 3846122, member: 1869"] I apologize. You took personal issue with how I wrote my post and upon re-reading it I see how it can easily be inferred that I was attacking you. I was making more a generic statement. I just don't think releasing more crunch would cause people to not buy books. Especially when you're talking about a niche hobbie with rare alternatives that is upgrading to a new edition. I agree that you could release everything and then have no reason to buy a book but that is just silly. I, nor anybody else is really expecting that. How many people have to be unhappy to be considered signficant? I don't know the answer but it is food for thought. The choices to play "DnD" are limited if it is redefined with a new edition. If stuff is not nailed down by now to reveal a few feats, spells, etc then I am a bit worried. You will find no where that I have implied they are a faceless hellbent corporation. I am simply saying their marketing campaign doesn't do it for me and is a bit poor. I don't think they're personally trying to marginalize me but if enough people are turned off and disinterested there will be problems. I think the history of 2E and player loss speaks for itself. In my mind look at the big picture. DnD Insider has hardly proven it's something I want to subscribe to. If this is the preview information I am getting for a major new release, then why bother with all the previews for the future splat books? Except for the fact it got the Eberon timeline to stay static and got rid of things like Dragon Tail Cut. You and I are on the same page. I agree their will be changes to the system, some of which I have been vocal about. However, I don't think my comments have been directed at the system. I have tried to direct them toward the poor marketing. Marketing should provide both hype and real info. I think the scales are tipped to include more hype. I have no doubt the designers are passionate about the game. The problem is they haven't made me passionate about it. It's not because I don't want to see a new incarnation of DnD. On the contrary I do. Regardless, I'll buy the core to see for myself but I am not so sure everyone else will. [/QUOTE]
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