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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8691006" data-attributes="member: 7026617">Are you somehow under the impression even when that was true that people didn't find reasons to hate on the direction the core game went, and not just in D&amp;D?The truth is that many people, even those willing to do that, consider it in many cases something of a failure state.&nbsp; Because at the end of the day there's a lot of players who are resistant to house rules, so having to get on board them using them is another hurdle.&nbsp; That's even more true if you periodically need to find one or more new players, who are going to hear &quot;I'm recruiting for a game of System X&quot; and not hear &quot;plus two pages of house rules, some impacting parts of the game you find important&quot;.(Don't confuse my position here; I've used some degree of house rules over the course of my decades in the hobby, but its abundantly clear a lot of people dislike doing so, especially by need, to one degree or another).And this isn't even getting into tonal questions as you reference in your last sentence; that can turn into a whole other war of expectations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8691006, member: 7026617"] Are you somehow under the impression even when that was true that people didn't find reasons to hate on the direction the core game went, and not just in D&D? The truth is that many people, even those willing to do that, consider it in many cases something of a failure state. Because at the end of the day there's a lot of players who are resistant to house rules, so having to get on board them using them is another hurdle. That's even more true if you periodically need to find one or more new players, who are going to hear "I'm recruiting for a game of System X" and not hear "plus two pages of house rules, some impacting parts of the game you find important". (Don't confuse my position here; I've used some degree of house rules over the course of my decades in the hobby, but its abundantly clear a lot of people dislike doing so, especially by need, to one degree or another). And this isn't even getting into tonal questions as you reference in your last sentence; that can turn into a whole other war of expectations. [/QUOTE]

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