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[rant] Spiked Chains are for Power Gamer
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<blockquote data-quote="Taren Seeker" data-source="post: 1034709" data-attributes="member: 615"><p>I use one in LG. It's good, but not overpowered. Others (like my 1/2 orc barb cleric buddy) do a LOT more damage, and generally are more accurate since they can allocate more stat points to strength.</p><p></p><p>My PC:</p><p>6 fighter 3 rogue</p><p></p><p>Str 16</p><p>Dex 16</p><p></p><p>Feats:</p><p>EWP Chain</p><p>Focus & Spec Chain</p><p>Dodge</p><p>Mobility</p><p>Combat Reflexes</p><p>Combat Expertise</p><p>Improved Trip</p><p>Close Quarters Fighting</p><p></p><p>Weapon: +1 Frost Chain</p><p></p><p>I do less damage than other fighters unless I can flank, then I merely keep up. I am very good at disarming but tripping is a problem (will be better in 3.5 however). I don't get a lot of AoO's cause I fight a lot of creatures with 10' reach, and in a melee there is often someone in between me and a target giving them enough cover to deny me one. Also, I've seen DM's go to rather silly lengths to avoid giving me an AoO (even when I'm flatfooted; apparently I have "COMBAT REFLEXES" tattooed on my forehead). He's fun in combat though because he does get a lot of options. I love the look on a DM's face when I disarm his BBEG while fighting on a rope bridge, or while water walking or something <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>This char may not be an optimal build because I created him 3.5 years ago and there are some choices that seemed good at the time but are not so attractive now. I was originally going for Whirlwind but in retrospect I think I should have dropped the spring attack chain and upped my strength rather than Dex.</p><p></p><p>That being said, this char will get a lot better in 3.5 with the +4 to trips, and changes to AoO's. Close Quarters in particular is now a money feat for me.</p><p></p><p>Still, overpowered? Nah. Take a look at the Dwarf tank who regularily does 20+ damage per hit, cleaves and now will get 2 for 1 power attack <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Taren Seeker, post: 1034709, member: 615"] I use one in LG. It's good, but not overpowered. Others (like my 1/2 orc barb cleric buddy) do a LOT more damage, and generally are more accurate since they can allocate more stat points to strength. My PC: 6 fighter 3 rogue Str 16 Dex 16 Feats: EWP Chain Focus & Spec Chain Dodge Mobility Combat Reflexes Combat Expertise Improved Trip Close Quarters Fighting Weapon: +1 Frost Chain I do less damage than other fighters unless I can flank, then I merely keep up. I am very good at disarming but tripping is a problem (will be better in 3.5 however). I don't get a lot of AoO's cause I fight a lot of creatures with 10' reach, and in a melee there is often someone in between me and a target giving them enough cover to deny me one. Also, I've seen DM's go to rather silly lengths to avoid giving me an AoO (even when I'm flatfooted; apparently I have "COMBAT REFLEXES" tattooed on my forehead). He's fun in combat though because he does get a lot of options. I love the look on a DM's face when I disarm his BBEG while fighting on a rope bridge, or while water walking or something ;) This char may not be an optimal build because I created him 3.5 years ago and there are some choices that seemed good at the time but are not so attractive now. I was originally going for Whirlwind but in retrospect I think I should have dropped the spring attack chain and upped my strength rather than Dex. That being said, this char will get a lot better in 3.5 with the +4 to trips, and changes to AoO's. Close Quarters in particular is now a money feat for me. Still, overpowered? Nah. Take a look at the Dwarf tank who regularily does 20+ damage per hit, cleaves and now will get 2 for 1 power attack :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
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