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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 1663567" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>The concept is DEFINITELY older than the past ten years. In fact, 3E ensures that you don't need a "balanced" party by letting the archetypal lines blur a bit. </p><p></p><p>In the good old days, if you wanted to tackle more than one combat in one game week or game month, you HAD to have a cleric. Preferably two. Otherwise, you healed at 1-3 hit points per DAY (old rules it was ONE hit point per day, period, and only with rest). Now, you have Rangers, Bards, Paladins, Clerics, Druids and even ROGUES who can heal. Whereas in OD&D clerics were the only healers, and in AD&D only paladins and Clerics could heald (and lucky high-level rogues with scrolls), now fully HALF of the classes have the ability to heal by themselves or with magical-item assistance.</p><p></p><p>Don't have a Thief in your party? In 1E, you were out of luck, unless you had a mage of middling might or greater. In 3E, ANYBODY can take the place of the party Rogue, to a full or limited degree - Even a fighter with a decent DEX and a couple of ranks can pick an average lock.</p><p></p><p>Need a heavy hitter with spells? No Wizard handy? A Druid or (to a lesser extent) a cleric can fill the role.</p><p></p><p>In Summary, it's not new, and with the newer rules it's easier now than ever before to run with an all-warrior type party, or a party of all clerics, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 1663567, member: 158"] The concept is DEFINITELY older than the past ten years. In fact, 3E ensures that you don't need a "balanced" party by letting the archetypal lines blur a bit. In the good old days, if you wanted to tackle more than one combat in one game week or game month, you HAD to have a cleric. Preferably two. Otherwise, you healed at 1-3 hit points per DAY (old rules it was ONE hit point per day, period, and only with rest). Now, you have Rangers, Bards, Paladins, Clerics, Druids and even ROGUES who can heal. Whereas in OD&D clerics were the only healers, and in AD&D only paladins and Clerics could heald (and lucky high-level rogues with scrolls), now fully HALF of the classes have the ability to heal by themselves or with magical-item assistance. Don't have a Thief in your party? In 1E, you were out of luck, unless you had a mage of middling might or greater. In 3E, ANYBODY can take the place of the party Rogue, to a full or limited degree - Even a fighter with a decent DEX and a couple of ranks can pick an average lock. Need a heavy hitter with spells? No Wizard handy? A Druid or (to a lesser extent) a cleric can fill the role. In Summary, it's not new, and with the newer rules it's easier now than ever before to run with an all-warrior type party, or a party of all clerics, etc. [/QUOTE]
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