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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KYRON45" data-source="post: 9626381" data-attributes="member: 6994040">This would depend wildly on what stupid decisions were made when by each character.The value of any given game shouldn't be how long does your character last.  At least I don't think so.  Is that the way the game is designed to run or is that the way the DM decides to run it?I wouldn't join a game where characters were subject to the meat grinder philosophy.  I've never had to deal with that kind of DM/game/thought process.  I guess i just don't understand what any of you are talking about.  That's ok.I still don't get how any of this is pertinent to the OP.  To me kill a bunch of characters until you get to the right one doesn't seem like progress at all.  If anything to me this seems like it has little to do with game design and mostly everything to do with play style.I seem to be in the minority on the matter though so....carry on and have fun the way you know how.</blockquote>