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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9668557"><p>There is nothing snobbish about sandbox. And I am not framing it as elite. I included what you do as sandbox too because to me, sandbox , while it usually has a map and prep, is ultimately about letting the players do what they want and giving them agency. The only reason we avoid the term story or plot, it because we are trying to avoid railroading. Nothing patrician about that at all. For whatever reason you have taken offense to it. I am not sure why, especially since I have made a point of defending you in this thread and keeping the definition of sandbox expansive enough to include what you do too (so it isn’t like my language is trying to exclude you). As for sandbox doing what regular GM’s do: it doesn’t claim to reinvent the wheel. It just promises the players freedom to do what they want and the advise and language in the advise is greered towards that end</p></blockquote><p></p>