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<blockquote data-quote="SableWyvern" data-source="post: 9671003" data-attributes="member: 1008">I'm genuinely not sure what point you are trying to make.As best I can tell, everyone you're arguing with has already agreed that their personal biases and feelings have an effect on their judgements. Plenty of people have already said that, if they see a number of outcomes that seem similarly plausible, they are likely to choose the most interesting one (I have said that I actively try to avoid doing that, but I seem to be an outlier among my &quot;allies&quot; in that respect).So if you are simply trying to argue that people are affected by their feelings, or that we consider what's interesting when making a decision, that's not a thing in dispute and there is no case to make. No one disagrees with you.But assuming that isn't your point, all I have left to go on is what you claimed was a concrete example. I considered that example, and thought, &quot;that doesn't reflect a real situation that I feel would arise in the game, and the conclusions don't make sense to me&quot;.&nbsp; So I felt that whatever point you were trying to make is clearly not well supported by the example, and said so.Honestly, I can barely follow what half this discussion is about any more. As I've said multiple times recently, I don't think I or others actually disagree with most&nbsp; of your most basic points, and I don't understand why the disagreement even continues.You very specifically said one of the things I could do to satisfy you would be to provide examples of what I'm talking about, and I gave you two years of session reports where I talk about my processes and what's going through my mind -- but it seems any time I make a genuine effort to do everything I can to give you exactly what you seem to be asking for, that isn't even acknowledged.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SableWyvern, post: 9671003, member: 1008"] I'm genuinely not sure what point you are trying to make. As best I can tell, everyone you're arguing with has already agreed that their personal biases and feelings have an effect on their judgements. Plenty of people have already said that, if they see a number of outcomes that seem similarly plausible, they are likely to choose the most interesting one (I have said that I actively try to [I]avoid[/I] doing that, but I seem to be an outlier among my "allies" in that respect). So if you are simply trying to argue that people are affected by their feelings, or that we consider what's interesting when making a decision, that's not a thing in dispute and there is no case to make. No one disagrees with you. But assuming that isn't your point, all I have left to go on is what you claimed was a [I]concrete example.[/I] I considered that example, and thought, "that doesn't reflect a real situation that I feel would arise in the game, and the conclusions don't make sense to me". So I felt that whatever point you were trying to make is clearly not well supported by the example, and said so. Honestly, I can barely follow what half this discussion is about any more. As I've said multiple times recently, I don't think I or others actually disagree with most of your most basic points, and I don't understand why the disagreement even continues. You very specifically said one of the things I could do to satisfy you would be to provide examples of what I'm talking about, and I gave you two years of session reports where I talk about my processes and what's going through my mind -- but it seems any time I make a genuine effort to do everything I can to give you exactly what you seem to be asking for, that isn't even acknowledged. [/QUOTE]

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