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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9674508" data-attributes="member: 29398">You go on to quote the DMG...I've always read the bolded as being separate and discrete from any xp given for the treasure itself that those monsters or tricks were guarding.If - as I-as-DM &quot;determine subjectively&quot; - I feel their outwitting of the guards on the bridge is worth 100 xp then that's what they'll get, divided among the characters who helped with said outwitting.&nbsp; If there's 845 g.p. worth of treasure behind said guards the PCs will divide 845 xp between them for this as well, assuming a) said treasure is taken back to town and b) subject to the rules quoted below.Outwitting them just for the hell of it, no.&nbsp; Outwitting them in pursuit of some other goal (usually treasure) or to defuse or negate their threat, sure.A Thief who successfully disarms a trap can be said to have outwitted the trap (well, technically, to have outwitted the designer of said trap, but whatever), and should get xp for it.Then again, I've personally never had to worry about the treasure aspect as, following the lead of my then-DM, I took out xp for treasure right from day one (and beat 2e to the punch by about 5 or 6 years in the process <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9674508, member: 29398"] You go on to quote the DMG... I've always read the bolded as being separate and discrete from any xp given for the treasure itself that those monsters or tricks were guarding. If - as I-as-DM "determine subjectively" - I feel their outwitting of the guards on the bridge is worth 100 xp then that's what they'll get, divided among the characters who helped with said outwitting. If there's 845 g.p. worth of treasure behind said guards the PCs will divide 845 xp between them for this as well, assuming a) said treasure is taken back to town and b) subject to the rules quoted below. Outwitting them just for the hell of it, no. Outwitting them in pursuit of some other goal (usually treasure) or to defuse or negate their threat, sure. A Thief who successfully disarms a trap can be said to have outwitted the trap (well, technically, to have outwitted the designer of said trap, but whatever), and should get xp for it. Then again, I've personally never had to worry about the treasure aspect as, following the lead of my then-DM, I took out xp for treasure right from day one (and beat 2e to the punch by about 5 or 6 years in the process :) ). [/QUOTE]

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