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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9676361" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Because it isn't even necessary? I mean, [USER=7045806]@DinoInDisguise[/USER] is talking about how the mindset can be applied to any game, and how even a trad game can benefit from it. It's one of the things I incorporated into my trad GMing, and I would say that it's something that's improved my game. The constant appeals to popularity whenever a game that's not 5e is mentioned as handling something well are just annoying. There's nothing wrong with it, objectively. But for many people, it sounds boring as hell. I would have a problem with that in a game unless there was a clear process in place. If you just ad hoc said "you only succeeded by 1, so I'm gonna say that you make the jump, but you drop your shield" or something similar, I'd be annoyed. That kind of thing should be discussed and disclosed up front, not in the midst of play. Despite your implication here, it's not about being soft on the PCs or that the players are snowflakes or whatever other nonsense you're dancing around. It's about there actually being consequences to the roll. If there are no consequences for failing to pick a lock, let's say, then it sounds to me like there's plenty of time and no other concerns that matter... so I'd just say you eventually open the lock. If we're going to roll, it's because something is at stake. There's a time consideration or some other pressure that means something will happen one way or the other when the roll is made. Well, considering the context of the thread and the fact that this was already addressed in the OP, combined with the fact that political talk is not allowed here... I think it's crystal clear what I mean. And to try and compare what I said to be political after you just passive-aggressively toed the line on political comments is just bad form. I think it's just an option that should be more widely discussed and practiced. The amount of times back in my early days of GMing that this would have helped me are pretty astounding. It's not about it being the only thing that can happen. It's about it being an option at the GM's disposal. Some GMs are aware of it, but because it's not really highlighted in many trad games, and often vocally and aggressively demonized by many folks, it's not as widespread as it could be.</blockquote>

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