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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9677587" data-attributes="member: 71699">I should have added that I reserve the label neo-sandbox for what you describe. The neo-sandbox conceptual 'project' is the compatibility of narrative and sandbox.* What my post seems to me to suggest (relevant to your criticism) is that work is needed to sustain something integral to the mode... you can see that the 'project' faces interesting problems as to how that works out.*So that we can have neo-trad, neo-sim, and neo-sandbox as terms to describe designers integrating discoveries by the avant-garde into longer-standing or classical modes of play. Consciously motivated often by the relevant philosophies of play.EDIT [USER=1008]@SableWyvern[/USER] I mean that I agree with your closing thought. They are compatible. I point out only present differences in structuring and to concerns that neo-sandbox will have that sandbox may not have. Which you also identified.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9677587, member: 71699"] I should have added that I reserve the label [B]neo-sandbox[/B] for what you describe. The neo-sandbox conceptual 'project' is the compatibility of narrative and sandbox.* What my post seems to me to suggest (relevant to your criticism) is that work is needed to sustain something integral to the mode... you can see that the 'project' faces interesting problems as to how that works out. *So that we can have neo-trad, neo-sim, and neo-sandbox as terms to describe designers integrating discoveries by the avant-garde into longer-standing or classical modes of play. Consciously motivated often by the relevant philosophies of play. EDIT [USER=1008]@SableWyvern[/USER] I mean that I agree with your closing thought. They are compatible. I point out only present differences in structuring and to concerns that neo-sandbox will have that sandbox may not have. Which you also identified. [/QUOTE]

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