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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9678291" data-attributes="member: 29398">Uh...er...before I jump in on this one you'll have to redefine what this is about, I'm afraid, as I've lost the topic somewhere.Well, yes it is; if the die roll says 'fail' and the DM decides it'll be something else instead then it's fiat all day long.It has fail in the name but not always in the outcome.If you're trying to climb a wall where success means you reach the top and failure means you don't then by both RAW and RAI a fail roll has to mean, regardless of anything else, that you don't reach the top.Fail-forward advocates would have it that on failure you might indeed reach the top...which immediately turns what should be a failure, based on the roll, into a success.&nbsp; And that ain't right.Sorry, but in this case the man of straw is merely an illusion.&nbsp; Roll to disbelieve.Ideally, yes it does.&nbsp; Practicality, unfortunately, then rears its ugly head and says we can only play through bits of it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9678291, member: 29398"] Uh...er...before I jump in on this one you'll have to redefine what this is about, I'm afraid, as I've lost the topic somewhere. Well, yes it is; if the die roll says 'fail' and the DM decides it'll be something else instead then it's fiat all day long. It has fail in the name but not always in the outcome. If you're trying to climb a wall where [B]success[/B] means you reach the top and [B]failure[/B] means you don't then by both RAW and RAI a fail roll has to mean, regardless of anything else, that [I]you don't reach the top[/I]. Fail-forward advocates would have it that on failure you might indeed reach the top...which immediately turns what should be a failure, based on the roll, into a success. And that ain't right. Sorry, but in this case the man of straw is merely an illusion. Roll to disbelieve. Ideally, yes it does. Practicality, unfortunately, then rears its ugly head and says we can only play through bits of it. [/QUOTE]

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