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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9687203" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Lots. The criteria are too varied to list. I'd have to be in a game when a specific set of circumstances came up before I could figure that out.</p><p></p><p>What happened that would cause it? His decision. That I punched you is very probably connected to the decision, but no part of it forced(caused) him to tackle me.</p><p></p><p>No. The silly claim is that I could force someone to tackle me by punching you. I can't cause anyone to do anything without some sort of direct threat of force against that person or a loved one.</p><p></p><p>Sure. Those that understand that I can't force(cause) someone to act in a certain way simply by punching you. You are arguing that they have no free will.</p><p></p><p>I think [USER=6906980]@AlViking[/USER] was using unconnected to mean not the cause. They are distantly connected as [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] and myself have said repeatedly at this point.</p><p></p><p>Why can't it be opened? They are on the inside. For that matter, why haven't they jumped through a ground floor window? This example isn't very good.</p><p></p><p>Asked and answered already.</p><p></p><p>I mean, my example doesn't involve tracking time closely at all. But yes, if you decide to rob a house in the middle of the night there will be a small chance that someone is awake. At that point I need to determine 1) when, 2) where, and 3) why.</p><p></p><p>The party entered a town and one of the PCs wanted to go to a farrier. I hadn't considered a farrier when I designed the town, so I thought about how likely it was that the town would have one. It was large enough that someone would have to fill that role because there would be a good amount of horses in and coming through the town, so I added in a farrier without a roll.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9687203, member: 23751"] Lots. The criteria are too varied to list. I'd have to be in a game when a specific set of circumstances came up before I could figure that out. What happened that would cause it? His decision. That I punched you is very probably connected to the decision, but no part of it forced(caused) him to tackle me. No. The silly claim is that I could force someone to tackle me by punching you. I can't cause anyone to do anything without some sort of direct threat of force against that person or a loved one. Sure. Those that understand that I can't force(cause) someone to act in a certain way simply by punching you. You are arguing that they have no free will. I think [USER=6906980]@AlViking[/USER] was using unconnected to mean not the cause. They are distantly connected as [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] and myself have said repeatedly at this point. Why can't it be opened? They are on the inside. For that matter, why haven't they jumped through a ground floor window? This example isn't very good. Asked and answered already. I mean, my example doesn't involve tracking time closely at all. But yes, if you decide to rob a house in the middle of the night there will be a small chance that someone is awake. At that point I need to determine 1) when, 2) where, and 3) why. The party entered a town and one of the PCs wanted to go to a farrier. I hadn't considered a farrier when I designed the town, so I thought about how likely it was that the town would have one. It was large enough that someone would have to fill that role because there would be a good amount of horses in and coming through the town, so I added in a farrier without a roll. [/QUOTE]
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