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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9694697" data-attributes="member: 42582">Huh? The game system has a rule for killing Orcs. The player invoked it.In MHRP, the game system has a rule for the player establishing what strange runes say. The player invoked it.What is the difference?The player's hope is what prompts them to invoke the mechanic. If they didn't hope to kill the Orc, they wouldn't attack the Orc.If the player didn't want to achieve the goal of having a way out revealed by the runes, he wouldn't have declared that he reads them.What RPG are you talking about here? I mean, I know some RPGs where what you say is not correct.You offer those examples as if they are supposed to be problems - "cons". Why would they be?More generally, why am I obliged to think that here is something wrong with my RPGing. I'm not a "narrativist" play. I'm a RPG player. I play a variety of RPGs.And the only D&D play that I complain about is bad D&D play that I experience. Which thankfully has not been for some time.I did spend many years on these boards having other posters complain about my D&D play, of course!</blockquote>