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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="Enrahim" data-source="post: 9697897" data-attributes="member: 7025577"><p>I deleted my previous somewhat critical post about this, as I realise this <em>might</em> be essential and constructive.</p><p></p><p>First of, I read the quote itself as not excluding fail with no retry. (While I read the gold version of this exact section to exclude fail with no retry)</p><p></p><p>However you here point to that "approperiate" complications are defined other places in the game text. You do not seem to explicitely claim that these are part of the <em>definition</em> of fail forward as a <em>concept</em>. Rather these are parts of defining fail forward <em>as implemented</em> by BW? (And I presume you read these as excluding fail with no retry?)</p><p></p><p>That is: Fail with no retry is not incompatible with fail forward as a <em>concept</em>, but rater incompatible with certain <em>implemenations</em> of the technique given the principles of the implementing game?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Enrahim, post: 9697897, member: 7025577"] I deleted my previous somewhat critical post about this, as I realise this [I]might[/I] be essential and constructive. First of, I read the quote itself as not excluding fail with no retry. (While I read the gold version of this exact section to exclude fail with no retry) However you here point to that "approperiate" complications are defined other places in the game text. You do not seem to explicitely claim that these are part of the [I]definition[/I] of fail forward as a [I]concept[/I]. Rather these are parts of defining fail forward [I]as implemented[/I] by BW? (And I presume you read these as excluding fail with no retry?) That is: Fail with no retry is not incompatible with fail forward as a [I]concept[/I], but rater incompatible with certain [I]implemenations[/I] of the technique given the principles of the implementing game? [/QUOTE]
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