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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9699747" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>We've been talking about a highly skilled thief. But you know what, it's irrelevant if I've added master, because "master" doesn't change the issue. The issue is there whether it's a skilled thief, very skilled thief, or master thief.</p><p></p><p>Focusing on master to ignore the actual issue is a Red Herring.</p><p></p><p>So the cook is in that room ready to react to the door opening regardless of success?</p><p></p><p>There is no principle of "Don't make the game boring for the characters." The characters' lives are always going to be interesting if you are actually playing the game. There is a principle of, "Make the game fun/interesting for the players." These are different things.</p><p></p><p>Eh, no. As posted here to show as an example, the principle actually was "Make the result interesting for the players." </p><p></p><p>If you name a principle gooniegoogoo, but write about a principle of making the game interesting for the players, the principle is not gooniegoogoo.</p><p></p><p>Nope. I criticize parts of D&D all the time. It's not a perfect game. My objection has nothing to do with criticizing D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9699747, member: 23751"] We've been talking about a highly skilled thief. But you know what, it's irrelevant if I've added master, because "master" doesn't change the issue. The issue is there whether it's a skilled thief, very skilled thief, or master thief. Focusing on master to ignore the actual issue is a Red Herring. So the cook is in that room ready to react to the door opening regardless of success? There is no principle of "Don't make the game boring for the characters." The characters' lives are always going to be interesting if you are actually playing the game. There is a principle of, "Make the game fun/interesting for the players." These are different things. Eh, no. As posted here to show as an example, the principle actually was "Make the result interesting for the players." If you name a principle gooniegoogoo, but write about a principle of making the game interesting for the players, the principle is not gooniegoogoo. Nope. I criticize parts of D&D all the time. It's not a perfect game. My objection has nothing to do with criticizing D&D. [/QUOTE]
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