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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9701321" data-attributes="member: 7026617">In my experience it depends on what you're using as a systemic basis in the first place.But of course my real answer is "Don't try to just cobble it together from the start.  Pick one that's pretty close to how you think things should go, then tweak (even if that involves important a version of a mechanic from elsewhere)."   Sometimes that's hard too, but there are, to be blunt, games I generally think have a better gestalt than D&D.  The only advantage D&D and its offshoots have to me is a lot of people have gotten used to even the dumb parts.Sure.  My own feeling is, however, there's "Is even there a basic structure here that seems like where I want to go?"  Mighty little of that is true with D&D's structures.  There are are some bits that are more acceptable than others, but mighty little is what I'd consider actually things I'd select by close.(And again, not expecting D&D folks to agree here.)</blockquote>