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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9704705" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>One cognitive model of fiction argues (from evidence) that people maintain an internal representation of the real world, an internal representation of the imagined world, and a meta-representational layer that among other things keeps track of which is which.</p><p></p><p>Given that picture</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>W</strong> is the set of facts fitting the real world model</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>W'</strong> is the set of fictional facts fitting the imagined world model</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">A candidate fact <strong>F</strong> can be counted "realistic" if it is true in <strong>W'</strong> or if not in <strong>W'</strong> nevertheless true in <strong>W</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Seeing as this is a <em>cognitive</em> rather than scientific model, inaccuracies are tolerated according to norms (the "folksy common sense" a poster once used to describe this sort of realism)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>That this type of truth-telling is covered by possible worlds theory helps to see that there is an additional quality - "accessibility" - that tracks whether <strong>W</strong> and <strong>W'</strong> are sufficiently similar to make this sort of comparison. One could imagine another possible world - <strong>W''</strong> - and that it could be the case that some <strong>F'</strong> was true of <strong>W'</strong> or if not in <strong>W'</strong> nevertheless true of <strong>W''</strong>. (Although that wouldn't fit the cognitive model, which maintains worlds that are "accessible" from one another.)</p><p></p><p>I think this addresses your objections - that there should be both dragons (a fact whose truth is established through its membership in <strong>W'</strong>) and let's say apples (a fact whose truth is established through its membership in <strong>W</strong>.) And this isn't something uniquely describing imaginary worlds in games, it extends to fiction. Even dropping the cognitive model aspects of it, the possible worlds description still holds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9704705, member: 71699"] One cognitive model of fiction argues (from evidence) that people maintain an internal representation of the real world, an internal representation of the imagined world, and a meta-representational layer that among other things keeps track of which is which. Given that picture [INDENT][B]W[/B] is the set of facts fitting the real world model[/INDENT] [INDENT][B]W'[/B] is the set of fictional facts fitting the imagined world model[/INDENT] [INDENT]A candidate fact [B]F[/B] can be counted "realistic" if it is true in [B]W'[/B] or if not in [B]W'[/B] nevertheless true in [B]W[/B][/INDENT] [INDENT]Seeing as this is a [I]cognitive[/I] rather than scientific model, inaccuracies are tolerated according to norms (the "folksy common sense" a poster once used to describe this sort of realism)[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] That this type of truth-telling is covered by possible worlds theory helps to see that there is an additional quality - "accessibility" - that tracks whether [B]W[/B] and [B]W'[/B] are sufficiently similar to make this sort of comparison. One could imagine another possible world - [B]W''[/B] - and that it could be the case that some [B]F'[/B] was true of [B]W'[/B] or if not in [B]W'[/B] nevertheless true of [B]W''[/B]. (Although that wouldn't fit the cognitive model, which maintains worlds that are "accessible" from one another.) I think this addresses your objections - that there should be both dragons (a fact whose truth is established through its membership in [B]W'[/B]) and let's say apples (a fact whose truth is established through its membership in [B]W[/B].) And this isn't something uniquely describing imaginary worlds in games, it extends to fiction. Even dropping the cognitive model aspects of it, the possible worlds description still holds. [/QUOTE]
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