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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9705280" data-attributes="member: 7026617"><p>Absolutely. And dueling blades are kind of an outlier at least to some extent, since they were mostly used in a period when anything but pretty light armor wasn't common any more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eh. The problem is armor-as-deflection has at least as many failure states because of its all-or-nothing nature as armor as DR, and runs into evven more special-casing if you're going to cover a wide range of weapons. That's always a problem because weapons and armor evolve in reaction to each other's presence, so when you want to mix and match you're going to always have problems, but I can't help but think the tools with DR-armor are more easily had to address it if you want to than the other way around (of course you can just not care, but then you start getting into things like using Strength as the primary attribute controlling attacking which has a certain virtue if everyone is in moderate-to-heavy armor, but doesn't make much sense the moment you're up against a target who's defense is primarily avoidance).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that's fair, but I think the part of the hobby that isn't playing in environments with at least some fantastic elements is vanishingly small. And--well, even in environments where that's not intense, you can still have the question of "what happens when the half-ton brown bear takes a swing at me?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 9705280, member: 7026617"] Absolutely. And dueling blades are kind of an outlier at least to some extent, since they were mostly used in a period when anything but pretty light armor wasn't common any more. Eh. The problem is armor-as-deflection has at least as many failure states because of its all-or-nothing nature as armor as DR, and runs into evven more special-casing if you're going to cover a wide range of weapons. That's always a problem because weapons and armor evolve in reaction to each other's presence, so when you want to mix and match you're going to always have problems, but I can't help but think the tools with DR-armor are more easily had to address it if you want to than the other way around (of course you can just not care, but then you start getting into things like using Strength as the primary attribute controlling attacking which has a certain virtue if everyone is in moderate-to-heavy armor, but doesn't make much sense the moment you're up against a target who's defense is primarily avoidance). Well, that's fair, but I think the part of the hobby that isn't playing in environments with at least some fantastic elements is vanishingly small. And--well, even in environments where that's not intense, you can still have the question of "what happens when the half-ton brown bear takes a swing at me?" [/QUOTE]
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