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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9708059" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I have repeatedly given examples, in this very thread, where I spoke about GMs who simply screwed up on something, or did something I considered to be Very Concerning but not overwhelmingly awful.I was told--by several people, including you!--that either it wasn't that bad and I should just Put Up Or Shut Up, or that if it bothered me, that not-gaming is better than suffering through bad gaming.In other words, the way people actually talk about it, every time I present "This is concerning, but not automatically a problem, how do I-as-player work with a GM to address it?" I'm told one of two things:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You just have to place unending trust in the GM, or</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The GM has obviously blown past the point of no return so throw in the towel</li> </ul>It took hundreds of posts of back and forth before I could get even one person to start considering techniques for how trust could be re-established if it were banged up a little but not destroyed. Not helped, of course, by the insistent throughline by numerous posters that GMs don't ever need to earn trust nor work to build it, they just deserve it from nanosecond 1.</blockquote>