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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="AlViking" data-source="post: 9711897" data-attributes="member: 6906980"><p>There are many other reason it may not be possible to bribe someone for reasons other than railroading. It can be anything from blind loyalty that we see all the time in the real world to the bribe simply not being sufficient. If someone is fearful enough of consequences there may be little you can do to bribe someone. It's really insulting to always jump from "The GM does something I don't like" to "The GM is a railroading control freak".</p><p></p><p>I remember a game where a character offered a servant 20 GP to betray her employer. To the player this was an enormous amount of money, to me it would have likely been equivalent to something like $500. Admittedly a large amount of money but look at it from the servant's perspective - the character was asking them to do something that meant they would have to immediately flee the city. Assuming they could even get out of the city without being caught which was not likely since the NPC would have had no connections or know of means to do so, they would have had to leave everything they knew behind. No more family, no friends, no loved ones, no connections at all. Set adrift in a dangerous world, there was a reason that banishment was one of the most extreme punishments possible. It likely would have been a death sentence for most people. If the bribe had been larger it just would have made her even more of a target for thieves.</p><p></p><p>So no, I don't think bribes will always work. It depends on who you're trying to bribe. A bouncer not particularly loyal to the owner of a dive bar? Sure. A royal guard who is proud to be 3rd generation protector of the realm, who's whole identity is tied to his loyalty to king and country? Probably not. Somewhere in-between? Roll for it but it's not a guarantee. Not because I have some plot in mind (I don't think that way) but because I've made a judgement call on whether it's possible based on the current situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AlViking, post: 9711897, member: 6906980"] There are many other reason it may not be possible to bribe someone for reasons other than railroading. It can be anything from blind loyalty that we see all the time in the real world to the bribe simply not being sufficient. If someone is fearful enough of consequences there may be little you can do to bribe someone. It's really insulting to always jump from "The GM does something I don't like" to "The GM is a railroading control freak". I remember a game where a character offered a servant 20 GP to betray her employer. To the player this was an enormous amount of money, to me it would have likely been equivalent to something like $500. Admittedly a large amount of money but look at it from the servant's perspective - the character was asking them to do something that meant they would have to immediately flee the city. Assuming they could even get out of the city without being caught which was not likely since the NPC would have had no connections or know of means to do so, they would have had to leave everything they knew behind. No more family, no friends, no loved ones, no connections at all. Set adrift in a dangerous world, there was a reason that banishment was one of the most extreme punishments possible. It likely would have been a death sentence for most people. If the bribe had been larger it just would have made her even more of a target for thieves. So no, I don't think bribes will always work. It depends on who you're trying to bribe. A bouncer not particularly loyal to the owner of a dive bar? Sure. A royal guard who is proud to be 3rd generation protector of the realm, who's whole identity is tied to his loyalty to king and country? Probably not. Somewhere in-between? Roll for it but it's not a guarantee. Not because I have some plot in mind (I don't think that way) but because I've made a judgement call on whether it's possible based on the current situation. [/QUOTE]
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