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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9712986" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>And others never ever ever have put up <em>pages</em> of hysterical rants about how utterly god-awful players are and how they NEED to be subject to extremely tight constraints or else they'll destroy things.</p><p></p><p>I think you'll find there's <em>plenty</em> of digital ink spilled here about how bad behavior from players completely requires GMs to suspect misbehavior from all fronts, while simultaneously demanding nigh-infinite trust that the GM would never, ever abuse the powers they lay claim to.</p><p></p><p>Edit: May as well combine this with the other response I have for you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Aaaaand here we have the goalposts moving at the speed of light.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, not gonna accept this line of reasoning. It's a default ancestry that has been present in some degree for <em>at least</em> three editions running. (IIRC there was something in...1e, from Dragon mag, that looks <em>shockingly</em> like a dragonborn in race-as-class form, sans scaly dreadlocks of course, except that they "ate" magic items instead of wearing them directly. Neat idea, not really my cuppa but I could work with it if the GM expected only "in-edition" content.) It's been a core ancestry for, at this point, 18 years. It's one of the most popular non-human options in the game; as of the most recent statistics, behind <em>only</em> half-elf and elf, and half-elf got straight-up deleted in 5.5e, so...dragonborn are theoretically now the second-most-popular non-human ancestry in D&D? I mean, if you believe the statistics coming from the official sources.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9712986, member: 6790260"] And others never ever ever have put up [I]pages[/I] of hysterical rants about how utterly god-awful players are and how they NEED to be subject to extremely tight constraints or else they'll destroy things. I think you'll find there's [I]plenty[/I] of digital ink spilled here about how bad behavior from players completely requires GMs to suspect misbehavior from all fronts, while simultaneously demanding nigh-infinite trust that the GM would never, ever abuse the powers they lay claim to. Edit: May as well combine this with the other response I have for you. Aaaaand here we have the goalposts moving at the speed of light. Sorry, not gonna accept this line of reasoning. It's a default ancestry that has been present in some degree for [I]at least[/I] three editions running. (IIRC there was something in...1e, from Dragon mag, that looks [I]shockingly[/I] like a dragonborn in race-as-class form, sans scaly dreadlocks of course, except that they "ate" magic items instead of wearing them directly. Neat idea, not really my cuppa but I could work with it if the GM expected only "in-edition" content.) It's been a core ancestry for, at this point, 18 years. It's one of the most popular non-human options in the game; as of the most recent statistics, behind [I]only[/I] half-elf and elf, and half-elf got straight-up deleted in 5.5e, so...dragonborn are theoretically now the second-most-popular non-human ancestry in D&D? I mean, if you believe the statistics coming from the official sources. [/QUOTE]
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