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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9713813" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Heh, I missed this one on the first spin through but [USER=6813585]@Older Beholder[/USER] quoted it and it caught my eye.</p><p></p><p>Now, we both agree that if the DM rolls on the weather table, that's pretty sim leaning. What if the DM simply narrates that it's raining. The DM, without any other input, decides that it is raining. Is that still sim leaning? What if the DM decides it's raining because he wants to set a particular mood for the session? Is that still sim leaning? Does the reason the DM uses to choose the weather change whether it's sim leaning or not? </p><p></p><p>That's a great example actually. Because it's one I think we'd all agree that if the DM is using some sort of weather generator, that weather generator is pretty sim leaning. It's solely setting based, so, there's not a whole lot of narrative possible as to why it's raining. There's a pretty standard normal chance of any given day being rainy, so, most of us wouldn't think twice about using this sort of sim leaning mechanic. Fair enough. </p><p></p><p>But, is it still sim leaning if it's 100% generated by the DM without any input? I'm not really convinced. </p><p></p><p>But, the main point is, if the DM declares that it's raining, it has nothing to do with the system. The system isn't sim at all because there is no system being used, at all. It's 100% from the DM/GM. How can we claim that the system is supporting simulating weather when it doesn't have any weather generating mechanics?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9713813, member: 22779"] Heh, I missed this one on the first spin through but [USER=6813585]@Older Beholder[/USER] quoted it and it caught my eye. Now, we both agree that if the DM rolls on the weather table, that's pretty sim leaning. What if the DM simply narrates that it's raining. The DM, without any other input, decides that it is raining. Is that still sim leaning? What if the DM decides it's raining because he wants to set a particular mood for the session? Is that still sim leaning? Does the reason the DM uses to choose the weather change whether it's sim leaning or not? That's a great example actually. Because it's one I think we'd all agree that if the DM is using some sort of weather generator, that weather generator is pretty sim leaning. It's solely setting based, so, there's not a whole lot of narrative possible as to why it's raining. There's a pretty standard normal chance of any given day being rainy, so, most of us wouldn't think twice about using this sort of sim leaning mechanic. Fair enough. But, is it still sim leaning if it's 100% generated by the DM without any input? I'm not really convinced. But, the main point is, if the DM declares that it's raining, it has nothing to do with the system. The system isn't sim at all because there is no system being used, at all. It's 100% from the DM/GM. How can we claim that the system is supporting simulating weather when it doesn't have any weather generating mechanics? [/QUOTE]
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