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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9714993" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Precisely.The effect is necessarily diegetic because it literally does happen in the world.The question is whether our process to find out the effect is diegetic or not.I don't think anyone here argues that the people in the world are really rolling a die and adding numbers to it to find out whether they pick a lock. That part is pretty obviously the opposite of diegetic.The question is whether there is enough diegetic...stuff...in the other aspects of that process, and I am inclined to say "no, not really". All the roll does is tell you whether you succeeded or failed at some particular task. It is 100% purely the function of human brains to take "success" and turn it into some visible, in-world meaning--and two differend GMs are likely (I'd say almost guaranteed) to produce very different explanations and reasons.A diegetic mechanic, one should think, would be more closely related to the actual processes a character is undertaking--such that it would be obvious that you had to have succeeded (or failed) in just one, singular, specific way, every time the mechanic is used. It might be a different singular specific way for situation A where x matters, vs situation B where y matters. If situation C comes along and x is what matters again, the explanation would be identical to what it was in A.Since that's objectively not true of D&D (literally the same roll in the same situation gets explained in different ways by different GMs, AND two genuinely distinct situations may get the same explanation), it's hard to see how D&D's mechanics could be diegetic in this context. They are, inherently, JUST a pass/fail. "Stats & Spreadsheets". It's 100% purely on the GM and players to provide every gram of "fluff" that explains what the roll result actually looks like in the world, the rules literally tell you absolute bupkiss.</blockquote>

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