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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9715058" data-attributes="member: 42582">But once they are established, there is then a chance to dodge.We work out the first set of things by rolling the chance to throw on target. We work out the second thing - dodging, given those other things - by rolling to dodge.(Speed is a weird case, because even in RQ the damage is rolled after the event, whereas for a spear it seems to be at least significantly a function of velocity and hence kinetic energy.)I think it's very common in classic D&D reaction rolls, where the result of the roll - which is modified by the PC's CHA - is used to also establish backstory elements (everything from Hobgoblins recognising friendly gestures, as seen in Moldvay's example of play in the Basic rules, to this Ogre hates elves explaining a bad reaction roll).</blockquote>