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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 6852899" data-attributes="member: 82779">I know that the mount rules are not particularly problematic.  I also know that there are some who would say "what mount rules?" because they are not very robust.  The mount rules only enter into the equation because you are insisting that a centaur must be large sized because they must adhere to the mount rules.  I simply suggested that the centaur does not have to follow the mount rules with regard to being large-sized, just as the Goliath doesn't have to be large-sized to get the carrying capacity benefits of large size.The rules also think that a pegasus could fly without pectoral muscles the size of Volkswagon.  I am personally fine with handwaving the impediment that a rider would cause to a centaur, especially if the centaur is of the large-sized category.  I was simply pointing out valid biological reasons why a centaur who may not be fully large-sized in the same manner that the goliath is not fully large-sized might not want to accept a rider, or even be particularly suited to be being ridden in combat.Sure, but your average human doesn't stand 8 feet tall.  A goliath does, despite not being part of the large-sized category.  And that was my point, that a centaur wouldn't necessarily need to be of large-size to be larger than average.  The goliath creates the precedent for doing that.</blockquote>