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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 1417724" data-attributes="member: 9213">Wow.I just find some of the responses to hip-hop in this board just amazing boardering on offensive. Banned from the table? PsudoEbonics? I understand and respect it if people said that they don't get hip-hop or if it's not to their liking but some of the venom here is just incredible. I'm pretty sure that there are a fair amount crap bands or groups in whatever genres that you like so please don't take the stuff that they show on BET or MTV as the best of the genre, it's just the most popular. There are plenty of good hip-hop crews and MC's out there. Dismissing an entire group of anything is just ignorant and wrong. I'm not a metal head but there are some songs that I like that some gaming buddies of mine introduced me to. I remember that I'd just finished reading THE STAND and i was at a friends house, a song was playing in the background called Among the Living by Anthrax. I remember listening to the words and going "Oh snap, theyre talking about Randall Flagg!" I know that they did a song about Judge Dredd as well and liking that song too. From there I got introduced to Metallica and Iron Maiden as well. On my ipod the only metal songs that I made sure to put on are from Anthrax, Iron Maiden (run to the Hills is AWESOME) and Metallica (There a b-side of theirs called THE PRINCE that just gets me amped). But getting back to the hatred of hip-hop thing, the lack of respect for lyricists just kind of baffles me. I guess poets and bards get the same level of disrespect because there are Mc's out there that can craft stories and twist words around with the best of them. And Metal getting a bad rap? Ninja Please... Hip-Hop is a predominately black art form and we all know that parents (especially parents off impressionable white children) don't want negroes in their childrens heads or in thier homes unless theyre the help. Trust me on that one. To those parents metal may be noise but at least it's not darkie Jungle noise. Metal was an out growth of rock and 70's Hard rock so you can say that metal has been around for a long time and has had it's spot in the sun. Hip-hop has been around since the early 70's and has really just recently gotten accepting in the mainstream over the past 5-7 years. Not just because you can see it on MTV, but when you see it become part of the culture. Mostly though you can see it when Madison Avenue and the predominately white owned record labels can make money off of it by making sure that it's everywhere. I'll be he first to admit that 90% of the stuff on MTV and BET is garbage, but to me that "hip-hop" is as good as Pop music. That's not real hip-hop, those are just some cats who are in it for the fame, the money and to floss. Most of the good stuff in any genre you have to hunt for. Whether it be metal, gospel, hip-hop, Rock, R&B, Dance, whatever. Dismissing an entire genre due to limted exposure (and MTV and BET are limited) is just, well limited thinking. It would be just as messed up if I dismissed gamers based on the guys that show up at the Complete Stratigist here in NY or at the cons that I've been to. And being a minority (black man) within a minority (gamers) and hearing this kind of venom is just disconcerting...</blockquote>

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