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<blockquote data-quote="Christian" data-source="post: 88078" data-attributes="member: 381"><p>(1) Rapid Shot alone can only be used with projectile weapons with no reload time, i.e. bows. Oh, yeah, and whips. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>(2) You won't have your full strength bonus on any of the attacks unless you shell out for a mighty composite bow. OK, you'll probably do that if you have a high Strength, but that highlights another difference between melee and ranged combat. Your Strength score affects both attack and damage with melee weapons, but you need Dex to affect your ranged attack roll. All things being equal, a ranged fighter will be naturally less effective than a melee fighter, because he needs two good stats instead of one to be offensively effective.</p><p></p><p>(3) Rapid Shot can be used with thrown weapons-if you have the Quickdraw feat. This is the equivalent of the Ambidexterity requirement for TWF-a moderately useless feat that increases the effectiveness of the 'good' feat. (Note that you don't <em>need</em> Ambi to get TWF-it's not a prereq-but you'll have a -4 on the secondary attack. A secondary attack with a -4 is still better than no secondary attack at all, methinks!)</p><p></p><p>And finally, (4) it's not irrelevant that RS is the end of its feat chain. In general, feats that are prereqs for other good feats are weaker than feats that aren't. Part of the strength of TWF is that having it lets you get GTWF a few levels down the road. Decisions, decisions ...</p><p></p><p>IME, the RS feat really doesn't unbalance combat in favor of the archer. It may make up some of the difference ... It's certainly a better feat for improving the archer's effectiveness than TWF is for improving the melee fighter's effectiveness, but that's not necessarily a problem. It does suggest, however, that substituting PBS and RS for the Ambi/TWF virtual feats is not a good way to 'fix' the Ranger, if you think the Ranger needs fixing. IMHO, of course. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christian, post: 88078, member: 381"] (1) Rapid Shot alone can only be used with projectile weapons with no reload time, i.e. bows. Oh, yeah, and whips. :rolleyes: (2) You won't have your full strength bonus on any of the attacks unless you shell out for a mighty composite bow. OK, you'll probably do that if you have a high Strength, but that highlights another difference between melee and ranged combat. Your Strength score affects both attack and damage with melee weapons, but you need Dex to affect your ranged attack roll. All things being equal, a ranged fighter will be naturally less effective than a melee fighter, because he needs two good stats instead of one to be offensively effective. (3) Rapid Shot can be used with thrown weapons-if you have the Quickdraw feat. This is the equivalent of the Ambidexterity requirement for TWF-a moderately useless feat that increases the effectiveness of the 'good' feat. (Note that you don't [i]need[/i] Ambi to get TWF-it's not a prereq-but you'll have a -4 on the secondary attack. A secondary attack with a -4 is still better than no secondary attack at all, methinks!) And finally, (4) it's not irrelevant that RS is the end of its feat chain. In general, feats that are prereqs for other good feats are weaker than feats that aren't. Part of the strength of TWF is that having it lets you get GTWF a few levels down the road. Decisions, decisions ... IME, the RS feat really doesn't unbalance combat in favor of the archer. It may make up some of the difference ... It's certainly a better feat for improving the archer's effectiveness than TWF is for improving the melee fighter's effectiveness, but that's not necessarily a problem. It does suggest, however, that substituting PBS and RS for the Ambi/TWF virtual feats is not a good way to 'fix' the Ranger, if you think the Ranger needs fixing. IMHO, of course. :) [/QUOTE]
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